The Worst SaaS Cancellation Policy on the Internet

File an FTC complaint about them, and a BBB one, and send a complaint to Dun & Bradstreet while you are at it, and post something on ripoffreport if they are still around. Then change your credit card # ( get a new number / card )

Sounds like these guys are exploiting the same flaw in CC payments that a number of phone services, domain name registrars, buyer protection services, etc exploit which is that there is no way to 'pre-decline' a charge to your credit card. They will keep charging your card (regardless of your cancellation) and when you complain they will send the CC company a copy of your initial signup / agreement and won't include any follow up documentation. You will have to send your email as documentation as 'proof' month after month. Many people just give up and pay the the money. The local news station has a consumerist segment they run now and then, this sort of scam comes up frequently.

Clearly you are not alone: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/directory/1and1-internet

This is a tangent, but I had a similar reaction to Honest company (baby products) and cancelling. My wife signed up to their trial subscription delivery thing for diaper for our newborn. This is Jessica Alba's company.

We sign up for the trial online. The diapers were fine, but we still liked the indicator strip on the Pampers better. So my wife goes to the website to cancel. Can't cancel online. Great.

So she has to call. But then she's on hold for 10 minutes, at which point being a brand new parent, she needs to nurse the newborn and can't be on hold any longer. So she emails to cancel, no response.

A second call, another 10 minute hold time, and almost giving up again, she finally gets through to someone to cancel and she has to go through a series of questions before cancelling.

Honest seems to be preying on new parents who simply don't have the willpower or time to deal with cancelling. Checking out reviews, it seems a lot of people have this 10 minute "hold time". I'm suspicious it's just an automated wait time, and their representatives aren't really that busy.

I've found with businesses like this (though not 1&1 specifically), the magic word is "chargeback". It helps you cut through the bullshit because if they get too high a percentage of chargebacks, their credit card processing fees go up (and they can even lose the ability to charge cards).

1&1 is terrible. I tried them once with a VPS. After three or four days, they still hadn't provisioned the VPS for me (you heard right, it's a manual process), so I promptly cancelled. A few months later they started hounding me (via email and phone calls) to pay up on the $15 that I supposedly owed for a free trial.

Absolutely terrible company.

1and1 has extremely aggressive telemarketers.

They once called my computer illiterate father who can barely speak english and instructed him to go to trial.1and1.com to sign up for MyWebsite.

Another time I refused the MyWebsite trial and the aggressive-pissed-off guy on the phone signed me up anyway. Twice. I finally got $350 refunded after months of complaining.

Always hang up the phone. Yell "no no no" and hang up immediately. Always. They use phrases like "I'm going to sign you up for that so you're all set." and "ok you're all set with the mywebsite service". They don't ask you if you want a trial. They opt you in. It's up to you to interrupt them.

I love their services however.

I absolutely loathe 1&1, i've taken more than a few clients off of their hosting and its been an absolute nightmare EVERY TIME. A client of mine got so annoyed with their service they stopped paying and asked me to move everything out of there. After umpteen phone calls and emails i managed to do it, but it took weeks. I ended up having to pay to reinstate the service just so i could get access to it in order to move it, and since the client had lapsed on their payment, it had eventually went to a debt collection agency, because of that, 1&1 had refused my money, said i had to instead pay the agency, they would then tell 1&1 and then reinstate the service.

Was an absolute nightmare...

Personally, i think these are the kind of companies that should be bought by the big boys, because there's SO MUCH opportunity to win here. They have a massive user base that is VERY poorly looked after, buy the company, fix shit like this, and you can make a huge impact. Another option would be to try and topple the incumbent, doesnt take as much money but its a lot harder.

Gosh. I can't stand 1&1. When I was in undergrad I bought my first domain from 1&1 because I really had no idea where to buy them.

I've received phone calls from them for 4 years. The always end with "Yes sir, we will remove your number from our list"....so either I'm on a lot of lists or they are lying to me.

I was scammed into adding on the website builder to my package. I was sitting at work and I received a call. I took it and a sales guy started trying to sell me on this. I explicitly asked him whether I would see any recurring charges if I said yes to this trial and then took no further action, and he assured me that was the case. I really just wanted him to shut up so I could go back to work. Imagine my surprise 4-6 months later. I was looking at my invoices and I notice this line for the builder! They did reverse the charges (I had just received the second bill and they bill quarterly), but it had to be done over the phone and during east coast business hours. Well, I work those hours.

It should be illegal to not offer online cancellation for an online service.

There needs to be a general logo/sticker/proof seal. "You can cancel a subscription the same way you can buy a subscription" If you can sign up for something online and buy it within 3 - 5 steps you should be able to cancel it online with 3 - 5 steps. If you need to call or visit a human to sign up for a service then it's fair that you may be required to call or visit a human to cancel it. How many people would more confidently purchase/avoid purchasing if that was on the checkout/payment page?

My favorite part is when you go to their 1&1 reviews page (http://www.sitebuilderreport.com/reviews/1&1/user-reviews) it invites you to "Try 1&1" with a referral code.

Wow, I'd heard of 1&1 but never imagined what kind of users take them up on their free trial offers. It sounds like their business model is smoke and mirrors. They maybe got a page out of the Comcast playbook.

Sorry to anyone who has ever signed up with 1&1.

I remember well over 10 years ago when I first used 1and1 when they started aggressively advertising.

Piss poor service, a few years and a couple hundred bucks in erroneous charges later and I finally managed to cancel them but not before getting sent to collections and having the only stain on my credit (which has long since gone away). The collections agency they use is as bad as they are.

They are truly among the absolute worst service providers on the internet, along with the similarly-famous Network Solutions.

Avoid at all costs.

On all the products I've sold in SaaS form, we've made it a point to let people cancel easily. Sometimes I question if we made it too easy, but then I think to Wheaton's Rule, and also the fact I'm saving time not staffing a team of assholes to block cancelations.

I can imagine tons of possibilities to work to reduce churn, but this 1&1 stuff is nuts. I'm sure tons of people don't cancel because $9/month isn't worth their time right now to call.

This is very timely, I was thinking about signing up with 1 and 1. Can anyone recommend an alternative with similar services and price?

They are truly terrible, for multiple reasons. I encountered a similar issue when canceling with them earlier, where they actually asked for my password over the phone:

https://www.andrewmunsell.com/blog/one-and-one-asks-for-your...

Ugh, these guys really are the worst. I had a credit card expire, and instead of letting me just update the card details, they sent it to a collection agency and when I called their customer support to just give them updated details they refused to help out. So you know what? I'm never going to pay them. Assholes.

1and1.com actually allows cancelation online. I found this out years ago, when the pain became unbearable from using their services for over 8 years.

https://cancel.1and1.com

Oh, and I attained this URL after calling customer support.

This is pretty much the same story with eFax: never ever ever EVER signup for that thing.

Based on what I'm reading they should really rename their company 1^1...