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I find it interesting that not so long ago we were all discussing back doors Chinese manufacturers might be putting in our systems. Now the world is worried about what we put in our systems that we export.

It seems over time this will create some very interesting market dynamics and all sorts of "secure" clones of various technologies in different parts of the world.

This is the beginning of the real cyber wars.. When technology is so complicated you can only trust things you've built from scratch with your own two hands. And even then you might have created some massive back door that could be taken advantage of without you knowing.

Seems like the basis for a SciFi Movie.. :-)

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> "Now the world is worried about what we put in our systems that we export."

That's not remotely a new state of affairs. Nor is it new for them -- Russia in particular -- to have very good reasons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_pipeline_sabotage

The rumors say [1] the "Baikal" processor is not a domestic design, but a quad-core 64-bit ARM-based piece, so it's swapping a US design for a British one...

I'm guessing they're building a FAB to manufacture it locally. Not that big of a news, actually.

[1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTcyNjU

The cynic in me says that they don't want to avoid the US's surveillance so much as they want to insert their own. If it were another European country, I might assume otherwise, but Russia?

If the Itar-tass article is right, this makes no sense because the chips are destined for government computers and state-run companies. There are probably easier ways to snoop on those computers.

And why would Russia not be afraid of the NSA, after all they are a prime target.

European countries are not directly threatened militarily by the US, but Russia is. Europe is being merely exploited economically.

But even now that the Europeans are fully aware of being spied upon by the US, they can not do anything about it without hurting themselves in the process. Europeans are weaklings, and not willing to endure the smallest amount of pain, even to avoid bigger pain down the road.

Remember when the US government kept talking about the dangers of another country writing something like Stuxnet before it came out that they were behind it?

my guess is we are going to see the rise of open source hardware. and hey, you'll probably be able to 3d print it.

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