>despite multiple opportunities while being both called "troll" and down voted over that
This style of discussion is not normal here. Nobody but you has called me a troll, because that goes against our community guidelines. Please read the guidelines.
Until then you will not receive more replies from me. If you pay a bit of attention you will note that this community is much more civil than you may be used to from elsewhere.
("But why??" - I hope if you give it some thought you can appreciate the broader context that there is insight to be gained from discussion, as shown by congresses of minds from Athens to the Royal Society, from the Continental Congress to the National Academy of Sciences, all of which have shown that amazing things can be borne of civil discourse.
Whether you think you have anything to gain from anyone else's opinion is up to you to decide. Engaging in name-calling, cheap argumentative tricks (as repeated here), and willful misinterpreting is not up to you.
Please read the guidelines and contribute or ask honest questions, rather than attack. You are very welcome to express a differing opinion, of course, as long as it is done in civil terms.)