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PHỞ: Automated workflow for front-end

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I realized I was old when I tried to clean my screen, then realized "PHO" had accented characters ... I complain about the uppercase-only EBCDIC main-frame output at work, but I'm still not used to seeing non-ASCII characters on the web.

My elderly status was confirmed when the Getting Started guide included:

    2. Generate initial project structure
    
    yo pho

Glad to know that I am not the only one who did that :P

Same here. Then again, the majority of projects by English-speaking developers tend to have ASCII names, even those for whom English is not their first language.

wanna be the asshole nerd that ruins every conversation?

constantly remind people that it's pronounced "fuh", like the German "fa" as in "fahren".

met a lady like that last year, has been stuck in mind since then. grrrr.

Pronouncing it correctly makes restaurant names like "Pho King" even funner. :P

I'm a little confused as to what this is exactly.

Looks like a Yeoman generator that sets up a Gulp config file. And a marketing thing for Source.

(Phở author here)

As a front-end developer you have to do lots of things that can be automated (minifying JS, compiling LESS, optimizing images, making sprites).

Gulp is great for this, but it still has a steep learning curve. Some basic setup is easy, but it took us quite a long time until it was reusable and solved all common tasks.

So pho is a gulp replacement?

Not at all, it's a set of configurable Gulp tasks and a Yeoman generator.

Oh I see, you bootstrapped some common basic tasks and rolled them all up into one. That's pretty useful. Thanks for sharing.

Looks like it's an abstraction on top of Gulp (i.e. it uses Gulp).

Just google "Phở" and I'm sure you'll find plenty of relevant sites containing documentation, code samples, and more. Oh wait...you'll actually get a bunch of sites about soup.

Great! Another un-google-able and practically un-type-able piece of technology.

> practically un-type-able

Says you. Maybe if you lived elsewhere, you might have a different point of view (SE Asia, perhaps...). ;)

Fair enough, but I know how to type most of the common diacritics on my Mac keyboard, which is probably more than most people could say. I'm not sure how it's even possible to type the "o" in that word without an alternate keyboard layout, though.

I'm very surprise that it's a Vietnamese name but the github source belongs Czech guy.

I like vietnamese cuisine :-)

Me too! ^^

It turns out there are quite a few Vietnamese immigrants in Czech Republic. [1]

When I visited Prague I stayed in a hostel near a restaurant called Vegan City [2], in Žižkov. Cheap and amazing Vietnamese vegan food.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people_in_the_Czech_...

[2] http://www.vegancity.cz/

Nice work releasing your FE environment setup; couple of questions: "The most used preprocessor with a kick-ass mixin library" Is this true? I haven't looked for actual numbers, but most FE devs I talk to use sass. We use node-sass + autoprefixer and it compiles orders of magnitude faster than compass+sass and means you don't have a dependency on ruby (or php like Less). Also, gulp is much faster than grunt which is especially noticeable on large projects.

> "The most used preprocessor with a kick-ass mixin library" Is this true?

Well, if I look at GitHub stars (not the best metric, but still), then less.js has about 3x more stars than sass.

> I haven't looked for actual numbers, but most FE devs I talk to use sass. We use node-sass + autoprefixer and it compiles orders of magnitude faster than compass+sass and means you don't have a dependency on ruby (or php like Less).

I like node-sass as well. It would be great to have something similar and popular enough for LESS. Official Javascript-based compiler isn't sometimes fast enough.

> Also, gulp is much faster than grunt which is especially noticeable on large projects.

Yes, Gulp is great in many ways and Phở uses it as a task runner.

I wonder how many potential user are lost due to ungoogleability. :O)

None, it appears O and ở are interchangeable to Google.

I'm not sure if interchangeable is the right word. 'phởne' and 'phone' yield different result lists.

At least Google seems to have a way to detect visually similar letters.

Unicode tools (at least should) have ways to determine visually similar letters. Maybe someone more knowledgeable about Unicode than me can pull out the term for it (maybe "homograph"?). For example: 'ö' and 'o' should 'match' using this method. It also allows you to do things like make sure that μ (mu) and µ (micro sign) match.

So in response to:

> I'm not sure if interchangeable is the right word. 'phởne' and 'phone' yield different result lists.

The results are different because it's matching somethings that are an exact character match, and others that are just visually similar (homographs?).

It's still un-google-able since it's an extremely common word (more than 2M results).

How is this different from Lineman.js?

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