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Maybe so, but also not relevant for my original point.

I discussed the present situation. History is interesting, I agree, but to only start laying blame for events happening generations ago isn't a counterargument, it is lack of arguments.

(And I did answer meric's "argument" that everything happening is USA's fault by pointing out why the situation is different now. No one seems to have a counter argument?)

And for changing things in Iran et al, check the resource curse on Wikipedia. Countries that weren't democracies when they found oil didn't become democracies. (Norway already was democratic before the oil.) It is just too lucrative for the leaders to oppress the population and steal the money.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution

The current regime is installed after the 1979 revolution against the US installed Iranian government.

Things would be different if U.S. didn't meddle in Iranian politics back in the 1950's.

>>Things would be different if U.S. didn't meddle in Iranian politics back in the 1950's.

You claimed that before. I discussed that, despite that it wasn't relevant to my point, in two comments. Including the GP(!).

So I assume you have nothing to say. Except that you want to drown my original point in a sea of text..?

"And for changing things in Iran et al, check the resource curse on Wikipedia. Countries that weren't democracies when they found oil didn't become democracies. (Norway already was democratic before the oil.) It is just too lucrative for the leaders to oppress the population and steal the money"

Here it is. There was a democracy in Iran, but since it's been toppled it's going to be difficult to change the authoritarian government that is in place now. This is the result of U.S.'s work. This thread is getting long, so it's easy to miss points of text... If you feel like continuing we can take it to email. Mine is meric.au AT gmail.

But again -- 60+ years ago... Close to WWII.

The only ones still keeping the indignation alive from that time period are the Palestinians (because they are refused citizenship by the Arab countries) -- and Iran....? (And some Japanese islands?)

Also see my point about things working very differently, now. Go back and see the extinction of the indians or the Spanish war (I think that is the US name?). The same goes for most every country the further back in history you go; e.g. wimpy Sweden taught the Germans everything they know about atrocities to civilians...

If you have nothing to say in four comments, I doubt you have more in email.

You still haven't touched my original point. I really think you (is there more than one person?) write all this irrelevant text since you are unable to answer -- and a True believer can't change your opinion(s). So you just hide it, by damaging HN with drenching it in text.

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