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IPv6 adoption rate above 3% even on Mondays now

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There's a pretty massive bump in IPv6 usage on weekends. I'm assuming this is likely due to residential / mobile IPv6 adoption being higher than commercial adoption?

Even if it is available a lot of companies just don't have the experience with IPv6 and are hesitant to turn it on.

Which BTW sucks when you are trying to test your product on IPv6.

This is our problem. People just don't understand it in the operations team. Our devops guys know it inside out but they have to use the services the operations team hand out which means v4 and shitty hardware.

Yes corporate structure sucks.

The silly thing is that there are several NATs and brick walls in the company which wouldn't need to exist with v6.

I myself am v6 end to end at home. Linode at the head end and Andrews and Arnold at the bottom end.

Does your ISP actually assign you multiple Internet addresses for every device in your home or do you still use NAT?

If you still use NAT, what the heck is the point in using IPv6 at home?

I use the same ISP, you get a /64.

The router does stateless auto config so every machine in the house that does v6 has a static IP. You get a /64

That's neat!

I too am full IPv6 at home. Got SLAAC handing out addresses from a /64 I am assigned from my ISP.

Stateful firewall on the primary gateway to the internet :-) Love IPv6!!!

I am on Comcast, so I have native dual stack internet. IPv4 and IPv6.

I need to get my MyBook NAS working on IPv6 so I can disable v4 at home. I started using AA's 6464 DNS server, too, so I've got no outbound v4 at all now.

You need to be able to show a business benefit before making changes like that; right now changing to ipv6 would give no benefit, require replacement of existing hardware and create additional troubleshooting load.

Until that changes there won't be widespread adoption of ipv6 by businesses.

At somepoint Congress needs to offer some small tax incentive and companies will slowly confert with that business justification. (Like the Electric Vehicle credit for network hardware - come on Cisco lobbyists get on that!)

Not sure if that if that extends internationally

> require replacement of existing hardware

This is the most ridiculous excuse people use. The premise doesn't even apply except in extreme cases:

1) 10+-year-old gear. (And even then only some; I've got plenty of decade-old gear lying around that supports IPv6 just fine.)

2) Extremely demanding performance requirements (to be in this category you'd likely be spending millions every year on gear and the people to run it).

3) Shitty $50 consumer gear.

If you're #1 or #3, you're going to need to fix that before long anyway, and even if you're #2, that's not applicable to your office network!

Hardware just isn't a good excuse for not turning on IPv6.

Yes, that's pretty much been my assumption. Perhaps you might also be watching longer videos on YouTube from home or using more Google services from home - but I think it does have more to do with residential adoption.

I think it's important to note that in the US it's up to 7.34%. Quite impressive considering the lack of urgency by ISPs.

And a staggeringly awful 0.24% in the UK.

Theres no real pressure here at the moment, so they won't do it in any hurry. Its not like theres a massive growth in houses being built.

But Germany and the US are both above 7%. I don't think the demographic pressures are greater in those countries; they just have more ISPs with competent network engineers.

Comcast recently started rolling out IPv6 to standard residential accounts. I'm guessing a lot of people are now using IPv6 and didn't even notice.

Verizon Wireless is over 50% v6. My phone is v6. If I hadn't tried a "what's my IP" on my phone I wouldn't have noticed (which is how it should be).

Absolutely. The US also the home of what percentage of the IPv4 space? Must be a big part of that cake. With that very coarse view you'd expect them to be the last ones to need IPv6.

My pattern is the opposite. At home, Comcast routes v6 traffic so poorly (a 50ms latency increase in most routes) that I have no choice but to disable it. However, at work, I enjoy low-latency v6 connectivity.

Considering that APNIC was iirc the first to run out of IPv4 and certainly a growing market, it seems odd that most countries there (edit: in Asia) have basically no IPv6 adoption.

According to this tool, Belgium would have the highest IPv6 adoption in the world. Happy to live there !

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