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Andrew, is in my opinion, one of the smartest people alive today. Call it what you'd like, but I'd love to see his work going into an American company.

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I 100% agree that Andrew is one of the smartest people I've ever met, but I for one wouldn't mind if Baidu started to challenge Google in the deep learning space. International competition will be better for American companies than Google's current monopoly on the research and experts.

It never ceases to amaze me how many americans completely overlook this in their blind patriotism. Baidu today may well be the only company able to challenge Google's strength on the search engine land, and an effective monopoly (i.e. if Google got their way with China and toppled Baidu) would be sad for mankind. Here's hoping instead that a breath of american mindset at Baidu can slowly make it reach out of China and who knows, challenge Google with (non-censored as in China, and non-NSA'd as in Google) english results.

Given Baidu's long history of being "cooperative" with Government, I cannot support such a company to be an effective competitor to Google. Besides, deep learning is about far more than just search.

You can say the same about Google.

Every company has to be cooperative with its government, or relocate/close.

It just happens that Google isn't based in China, therefore they were able to make the decision not to expand to China.

But in the US, Google will have to accept basically anything the government demands, as long as it is backed by the courts. (which isn't that hard since the government just invents secret courts based on secret laws that back almost 100% of the governments demands)

I agree with you completely , i always wanted to work with him or for him , just to see how his thought process worked. He is the reason that i want to get a Graduate degree in machine learning.

I don't think the nationality of the company matters.

There are good reasons to want America to succeed that have nothing to do with nationalism. In particular, China has a very poor record on human rights, and is the main supporter of North Korea. This doesn't make the company bad, but it's not an irrelevant fact.

Perhaps this would be a wake up call for all the politicians driving the US down in terms of IT progress. Or, perhaps all they care about is money and it won't change a thing.

Cheering for a country based upon an image of that country is the very definition of nationalism.

And the US has better records on human rights with all the lawful torturing and countless wars going on?

I'm pretty sure that China has caused less deaths or generally harm to innocents than the US has in the last 20 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_sovereignty_debate#Huma...

>China has a very poor record on human rights

Guantanamo

Really? China's regular court system has even less transparency and integrity than the Guantanamo courts, let alone the regular U.S. court system. I'd have more chance of a fair trial at Guantanamo than in any court in China if the party authorities had decided that you were guilty.

When China isn't a single-party authoritarian state, maybe then we can talk.

The US is a single party state. The party's name is "capitalism."

As sibling comments say, there is no way that America can attempt to occupy any sort of moral high ground on human rights given the events of the last decade. Where have you been?

I share that opinion and giving the fact that Hinton is on Google tells me that this would balance quite nicely the search engine industry

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