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A "lie" requires intent as per the response that "Audi UK said there had not been any deliberate intent to mislead". Audi dealers did make false claims which were misleading. You would need something in writing, like an email for example, to provide the intent and then uncover the "lies".

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It has nothing to do with what Audio did or didn't do. The BBC is quoting what a third party said to them, a constant theme with modern reporting.

"Audi lied to me," said man.

The BBC is accurately using quotes because they are quoting something. That's good, especially since the quote is from a BBC programme (BBC Watchdog - a populist consumer affairs programme). That programme will operate under strict BBC guidelines and so if they claim that some part of Audo is lying it is more credible than some random man claiming it.

The problem is not with the quote marks, but with the BBC using its own programs as a source of news.

This is a reasonable example but they do it all the time. This cross-promotion is annoying and I'm surprised the BBC news seems happy to allow it to continue.

> The problem is not with the quote marks, but with the BBC using its own programs as a source of news.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

Although separate from BBC News, much of the work done by the BBC Watchdog team constitutes investigative journalism. Standard procedure is for revelations to be publicised in advance of the show to drive interest in the show.

The number of other major news outlets reporting these revelations suggest they are certainly newsworthy.

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