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What other examples are there besides the Thinkpad line? I would disagree that Motorola can be considered a high quality brand when it comes to smartphones. Yes, their recent X and G were really good phones for the price, but many Americans still see Android and Galaxy as synonymous, so I wouldn't say Moto is high quality.

I'm coming from a different POV from you when it comes to laptops. I'm 20 years old and started off with cheap laptops. But I've always lusted after Thinkpads and now a Yoga Pro 2 after having tried one so for me, the Lenovo brand looks really appealing. I haven't found any other hardware that appealed as much besides a Macbook.

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Motorola has great goodwill from feature phones day. For 20 year probably they were the top when it came to durability and quality. I have seen one of their non sturdy phones fall from 2 floors height and work flawlessly after that.

RAZR also made a killing.

Yoga pro 2 is great if you don't need a good trackpad. If you don't want to carry around a mouse, there is no other choice but the fruit.

Typing this from a Thinkpad with a trackpoint, I couldn't disagree more :) (though I'd as soon chop off my fingers as use the Dell version of the trackpoint).

My X1's trackpad is horrible, but thankfully it comes with the eraser mouse, which is accurate even if it hurts my finger tip. The Yoga has no such option like the X1 does, which is why I would avoid it.

Why can't just one PC vendor who can make a decent trackpad...

To the downvoters, the Yoga 2 Pro really doesn't have a trackpoint as parent implied, just the trackpad + touch.

There is a ThinkPad Yoga that does have a trackpoint though. It's different from the other Yoga models, which are in the IdeaPad line.

Seems like Lenovo is determined to test the limits of just how many models their customers will tolerate. They're creating a new model for practically every feature instead of creating new options for existing models that are tried and true. I'd prefer they quit diluting the classic ThinkPad lines with experimental models, and up the quality on IdeaPad because they already have a value line called 3000 or something.

When I can find a trackpoint with a high res (2k+) screen I'll start shopping again.

Yes, there is one Yoga that has the trackpoint, but this is the one with the low res screen that isn't very interesting. I really want a Yoga 2 Pro, but the lack of a decent pointing system, even if it is the finger hurting trackpoint, bother me. I might just have to man up and buy an MacBook Pro.

I use a Yoga Pro 2 as my work laptop, and it has -- by far -- the worst trackpad I've ever used. You have to push hard to get that thing to click.

I have a quasi-conspiracy theory that Lenovo made the trackpad so difficult as a way to nudge consumers towards the touchscreen (the Yoga 2 is a touchscreen/laptop hybrid).

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