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Why is this on HN's front page? :(

You know, I ask the same thing when the more personal stuff I write goes to #1. I can see my more technical and/or inflammatory posts hitting #1, but this is seriously a fairly mundane travel journal.

Anyway, I don't post these (or anything I write) to HN so if this is tops on the front page just chalk it up to a slow news day or a possible trend worth exploring.

Zed

"but the dingiest place in SF was cleaner than the cleanest streets near me"

Keep in mind that the shit that you stepped over on the sidewalk was probably not from dogs (if you were near Market street).

I upvoted because being an NYC native (well, after 5 years here) it is always interesting to see what I think I may be missing out on by not being in SF.

Honestly, I think he's spot on with SF being cheaper, cleaner and better tech scene than NY. Where NY wins out is that it is actually refreshing that not everyone is consumed by startup culture here, yet there are still people (buglabs, drop.io) building interesting companies. Also, NYC feels more vibrant compared to SF but my experience is highly limited to an 8 month stint in SF '05 and I wasn't working at a startup.

How about we cut the negativity and share other experiences of people that have relocated?

Along the same line, given that YC is based there, and you have to move there to participate in it, any story about someone's experience in moving there is definitely of interest to me. My guess is that's the primary reason its of interest to others as well.

Zed writes reasonably well and captured aspects of the experience that I find intriguing, so I found the entry worthwhile.

I hope he continues to write about his move, and personally don't mind at all if additional entries get posted here for discussion in the future.

If you care about comparing SF and NYC, I wouldn't trust somebody's account of a weekend visit. I almost laughed out loud at some of it. "Awesome summer weather" and SF are fundamentally incompatible.

And Zed apparently doesn't actually like Mexican food, he just likes burritos, as that's the only thing you can only find in SF.

Now he is spot on regarding Muni. Actually, probably lucky he found a bus at all. Muni vs MTA alone probably makes it worth moving to NYC.

"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."

- Commonly attributed to Mark Twain, but he never said it. Who knows who did.

I don't know why people don't like the summer weather in San Francisco. Sure, if you live on the ocean side or in Pacifica it can be foggy and cold but in other parts of the city like the Financial District, North Beach or the Mission it is really comfortable most of the summer (high 60s, 70s and sunny most days). If you like super hot weather then you just head down the South Bay or over to the East Bay and you can get plenty of 80s/90s throughout the summer.

It's pretty cold here in early summer -- I was wearing a sweater and a winter coat a few evenings last month. I just spent seven years in Seattle (aka the Gloomiest Place on Earth), and even I think it's a bit ridiculous to be wearing a winter coat in July. I also routinely run into tourists over by Giants Park who underestimated the weather, and who are frantically searching for warmer clothes.

That said, I like it here. But had I moved here from LA or anywhere with heat, I would have probably been sorely disappointed.

I'm enjoying my first SF (well, Emeryville actually) summer after three years in Sacramento, where "summer" means "90 straight 100+ days". I think it's nice that even on the hottest day of the year I can still walk around outside for an hour without feeling like I'm going to die of heatstroke.

Unless you're planning a day at the beach, I think "hot" is overrated (and I say that as a Sydney native).

Emeryville is a significantly different Micro Climate than San Francisco. There are even parts of the actual _city_ of San Francisco that have different weather patterns - and just go a little South down the peninsula, and it's like you are in a different State when it comes to the weather.

I used to live in SF's Financial District, and have also lived in NYC, and I must say I much prefer SF weather. The weather is boring (no seasons), but at least it doesn't every get freezing or disgustingly hot like NYC. Plus, if you ever want warmer weather, just drive out of the city or take the BART to Berkeley and you're there.

The weather is probably the thing I like most about SF, compared to NYC. Otherwise, SF is pretty boring, and I much prefer NYC (except for the likelihood that NYC will be a target of another major terrorist attack, at some point).

The only thing worse than crap on the front page is complaining about the crap on the front page.

No, even worse is the meta-complaining about other people complaining about complaints.

Vicious circle, heal thyself.

Let them play!

zed had the exact same thought:

"WTF. Why is my post about moving to SF #1 on HN? I need to write something that is worthy of that spot again."

(http://twitter.com/zedshaw/statuses/3363785875)

Because we can't downvote articles.

Same reason that your complaining about it is at the top of the discussion of the article - people thought it was worth voting up.

Personally, I thought this article was much more interesting than what Zed thinks about Django after using it for 2 hours (which was once also #1). As far as your comment, I don't think it adds much to the conversation at all. If I were a moderator, I'd delete this whole branch.

Even more worrying is that it's still at #2 even on news.ycombinator.com/classic which shows it's not just the new people messing it up... (though, conversely, that sorta legitimizes it being here)

whoa! I never heard of "classic." What is it, and how did you find it?

Classic shows the home page as it would appear without votes from people with accounts less than a year old. pg added it about 3 months ago.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=607271

Pretty cool. It would be nice if there was a link to it, perhaps one the profile screen (or whatever he calls the screen I get when I click my username).

As with the last post of Zed, it is in the front page because most people here know Zed and are probably interested in what he does. I suggest you to flag the link if you find it inappropriate, it is more effective.

I don't know Zed, and I'm not interested in the minutiae of his life.

Ah, I see from Wikipedia, that he wrote a web server in Ruby. Wow.

Lol: ("This is not a post about Zed Shaw...")

Such a self-negating post would not prove Tarsky's Theorem but it would demonstrate the impossibility of halting Zed Shaw posts...

I've been reading lots of symbolic logic lately...

I'm not sure what you're getting at but it's Tarski not Tarsky.

Because celebrity worship is endemic to modern western culture, of which we are all a part of.

It isn't the domain of stay-at-home-moms and teenagers exclusively, even if you thought we were too smart for that tripe. :)

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