Note: I have no affiliation with Splitwise, I just love the product.
Note: I have no affiliation with Splitwise, I just love the product.
What happens if I'm person C, B is a decent guy but A is a deadbeat? I lent money to B, not A, and can't be bothered to hunt down A for my cash?
Or is that what's implied in "when enabled"?
(Yes, I have (mostly past) friends like that and yes I've been in that exact scenario, unassisted by any apps.)
In person, A thinks that's bullshit and immediately refuses to pay anything, out of principle. People stop splitting with A unless he has the cash on hand and eventually have to kick him out of the house.
Not saying the app works that way. In fact, that's probably why the app doesn't work that way.
EDIT: As it turns out they have an API [0] so I guess I could write something that would auto-add "bills" for interest if I wanted to but my current setup works fine ATM and I feel like some of my friends would not be happy with being charged interest :).
We do send monthly reminders to make sure people are good about either paying back or picking up the check next time. People often just use it to keep track of who should pay next and that is the way I primarily use Splitwise personally. With good friends, Splitwise is just a way to let our balance roll and figure out who should pay today.
With more distant or very diligent friends who don't like being in debt, they settle up right away and like the monthly reminder emails. To each his or her own!
We have our API just for things like this. I actually have personally borrowed money with interest (a large amount to pay off a credit card) from a friend, and tracked the debt, payments, and interest on Splitwise. We did repayments via PayPal and I added interest each month using my own calculations. We were both very happy and it's been paid off for a while now.
If someone wrote a general Splitwise interest-on-your-balance app (I would make it be opt-in for friends who agreed, with 0% still as the default for balances) on our API, that'd be awesome.
$interestBillAmount = $amountOwed*$interestRate
That ran each month. Anyways keep up the great work, I use Splitwise all the time and it's a huge time and stress saver!This even allows you to do the "Two people sharing a single room in a two-bedroom" calculation, unlike the NYTimes calculator.
* Should you get renters insurance? [1]
* The Splitwise Furniture Calculator [2]
* The Splitwise Guest Calculator [3]
* The Loud Sex (and other night-time noises) Calculator [4]
* The Splitwise Travel Calculator [5]
[0] https://www.splitwise.com/calculators
[1] https://www.splitwise.com/calculators/renters
[2] https://www.splitwise.com/calculators/furniture
[3] https://www.splitwise.com/calculators/guest
I see this kind of brokenness all the time. Is there a well known way to fix it on my end? Is this just bad web design?
I suppose the insight is that (some or many) people are more ready to accept an unfair situation dictated by a dispassionate external authority (even if that authority is just some JavaScript!) than a fair situation reached by negotiation.
It seems rather unfair of you to incorporate that information into the bidding system and bid up the price of the small room (a sort of strategic bidding). But it also seems unfair that if we both answer honestly the system has a good chance of making the smaller room priced the same (or more than) the big room.
With any other roommate, especially one who didn't know about my pathological fear, I could expect to pay less for the smaller room. These "external authorities" might reflect such widespread notions, as well as avoid the risk of strategic bidding that can occur after roommate selection is fixed.
I think if you have complex or specific preferences about rent splitting (ie I don't want to live next to the kitchen) and live with a bunch of fellow nerds, an implicit fair division system may work well. The NYT calc is a great new implementation the Francis Su paper - the old Java one was broken.
If you have non-nerd roommates, couples living together, or are already assigned to rooms by fate or immutable preference, that's what the Splitwise calculator is for. The price are based on square-footage, survey data, and common sense. Not everyone is willing to change from the room they like, or sit for an auction.
Rationale: http://blog.splitwise.com/rent-calculator-faq/ Survey: http://blog.splitwise.com/2011/02/20/survey-results-split-th... Follow up: http://blog.splitwise.com/2011/03/01/does-it-really-work-fee... My Quora answer: https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-fairest-way-to-assign-rooms-...
Happy to answer questions at jon at splitwise dot com
Edit: Also see Splitwise's rent calculator: https://www.splitwise.com/calculators/rent
I've been waiting for Venmo to integrate roommate-inspired features for ages.
I think I might check it out. I will probably keep using Splitwise but if it can do everything mint can do and track iou's I might try to use it as a mint replacement then write something that can mirror my Splitwise history to Buxfer and keep using Splitwise.
[1] https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/splittr-cost-sharing-made/id...
Edit: It appears to be for iOS only according to the website [0]. This wouldn't be an issue for my current roommates but I do have some friends on android that I use splitwise with that wouldn't be able to use this. If they ever add Android support I will be sure to check it out.