I mean.
Most people already forgot this.
The people who want to make this a bigger issue than it is not going to be convinced.
I think most people didn't think they needed to explain more than they already had.
I mean.
Most people already forgot this.
The people who want to make this a bigger issue than it is not going to be convinced.
I think most people didn't think they needed to explain more than they already had.
Interestingly, the "divisiveness" of this rug was apparently turned into an issue by none other than Julie Ann Horvath.
(http://www.businessinsider.com/githubs-ceo-ditches-meritocra...)
Now I absolutely think that Preston-Werner's wife and Preston-Werner himself acted extremely inappropriataly towards Horvath. But, since it appears that Horvath's other claims do not seem to have a basis, she has yet again taken a situation where she had a legitimate point to make and completely blew it out of proportion.
Wanstrath will learn eventually that he sometimes just has to say no more. There are more important goals for his organization to accomplish than to be accommodating to every single grievance.
It just seems awfully silly. The legitimate point here - that there should be more female engineers - seems a) not specific to GitHub and b) to be lost under a shroud of phony outrage over a rug.
> The main finding is consistent across the three studies: when an organization is explicitly presented as meritocratic, individuals in managerial positions favor a male employee over an equally qualified female employee by awarding him a larger monetary reward.
From: http://asq.sagepub.com/content/55/4/543.short
Which was recognized by Chris Wanstrath when they removed it:
> @defunkt: We thought ‘meritocracy’ was a neat way to think of open source but now see the problems with it. Words matter. We’re getting a new rug.
That calling something a meritocracy when it isn't may have a paradoxical effect may be true. But I'm not sure it warrants getting rid of meritocracy as the guiding principle of an organization. We should just be doing a better job of being meritocratic.
This is how you sound.
There's been a lot of failed Marxist societies, but some implementations, the Kibbutz for example, has been relatively successful. One could also argue that HN and startup culture is an example of workers seizing the means of production.
The meritocrats - the 'beneficiaries of nepotism' in the article - aren't actually where they are (wholly) because of merit. It's because they were born into a social structure where they were already beneficiaries of wealth and privilege, and were able to accrue various 'merit badges' because of this wealth and privilege. But this isn't actually meritocracy.
What I'm saying is that the system that the author claims to be meritocratic actually isn't - if it were, starting with our early childhood education system, it would be promoting people based on talent and aptitude and not keeping them down because they were born into the wrong class.
And this is what I'm saying actually constitutes meritocracy. Do I think we should be advancing people simply because they are poor? I do not. Similarly I do not think we should be advancing people simply because they are already rich. I think we should be giving those who have been historically denied these opportunities the same opportunities to advance as we do to everyone else, elevating them rather than diminishing others. That to me would represent an actual 'meritocracy', not the false version that the coiner of the term is criticizing.
I just don't see what a better alternative to this perfect meritocracy would be. I don't see any alternative proposed. I don't see a better way to allocate labor. You choose people for positions that are well suited to those positions. How else would we have it? How else would we build/accomplish/organize anything?
A selection of one is a rejection of many. Likewise, choosing to fulfill a single duty means choosing not to perform all other duties. Should we do nothing? Should we hire no one? In the end I think this critique of meritocracy collapses to Marxism or some form of communitarianism - a nice idea in principle, but a failure in practice. To even remotely be able to accomplish the same kind of technological and societal progress that a true meritocracy is capable of you need to make decisions about who is and who isn't suited to particular functions.
So this seems like less a criticism of meritocracy than a criticism of the economic inequality that necessarily emerges in a society where individuals are different from each other.
Also, I somewhat disagree with the idea that a coiner of a term gets to decide its meaning in perpetuity. Language changes and terms get repurposed and given new connotations
The point is we can’t be truly meritocratic. It’s a utopic ideal that doesn’t hold up in the real world. Those who are deciding what merit is are the ones who already have power. Also, there are many barriers to entry before supposed meritocratic judging can even take place. The goal isn’t to completely abandon the idea of judging people based on their accomplishments, but to recognize that the supposed ideal of meritocracy is a harmful fantasy, and to think more critically and about how we evaluate people.
Selenda Deckelmann’s on meritocracy in the Postgres community:
“[…] in a truly meritocratic organization, privilege wouldn’t matter. But the truth is, not everyone can join the Postgres project. […] So, ending the pursuit of a mythical meritocracy doesn’t mean that we start accepting code which doesn’t meet high standards, or that all of the sudden we’re going to include more code from people in the bottom 1% of the world in terms of salary. It means that we take a look at different aspects of our project and see what is within our means to open up and make accessible to people who aren’t exactly like us.” — http://www.chesnok.com/daily/2011/03/30/where-meritocracy-fa...
Everything else here is very much worth reading: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Meritocracy
"The main finding is consistent across the three studies: when an organization is explicitly presented as meritocratic, individuals in managerial positions favor a male employee over an equally qualified female employee by awarding him a larger monetary reward."
The fact of the matter is I don't, which is more, not less, of a reason to be skeptical that the concept of meritocracy is bad because it causes a paradoxical outcome.
I honestly haven't read the study, but I'm skeptical about how its authors reached their conclusion. How are they determining that the male and female job candidates are equally qualified? Are statisticians experts on hiring software engineers or sys admins? Were they directly involved in the hiring process of a group of tech workers? Do they have access to said workers skill assessments?
I think anyone could pick a bunch of tech companies which describe themselves as meritocracies and determine that they hire men more frequently than they do women. I think you would find that to be the norm in any tech company, regardless of how they describe themselves. There are more men in tech. Duh.
I get that you're trying to take a cheap shot, but that wasn't the story as I remember reading it. There was bitterness about the "meritocracy" meme from a lot of people in tech who felt that it discounted their marginalized status. JAH ran into that response while trying to do outreach for the Passion Projects series, and relayed it back to the Github leadership, who responded respectfully.
There's a more complete retelling of that issue here: http://readwrite.com/2014/01/24/github-meritocracy-rug
>> Horvath and other women at GitHub began to feel as if they were “bearing the brunt” of the rug’s message as well as “being excluded from other communities as a result.”
>> One employee, Horvath says, thought she was rejected for membership in Double Union, a feminist hackerspace, because of the rug. Double Union did parody the rug on its crowdfunding page, but denied that it would reject a possible member because of the rug.
And this idea that someone rejected the employee in question because of a rug sounds very implausible.
If enough people really care Github is not going to be able to hire people and they are going to loose customers.
Do you have any evidence of the opposite? Why so pedantic?
All I can say is that most people I talk with are no longer talking about it and are still using Github, still likes the company so I don't think my view is that far off, but of course it's a personal opinion.
If you don't believe that is the case you are free to disagree but I hardly see any reason for the pedantic voice or the downvotes (not saying that's you).