But the best way I've heard it explained is that everyone knows and cares about Mozilla and Github, and no one knows RadiumOne.
I tweeted John Gruber suggesting he might link to this, and he (rightly, I guess) pointed out that he had no idea who this guy is. And that will be most people's reaction, I guess.
Mozilla and Github, both have consumers who will take action.
This is a far worse case, he provable beat the hell out of her, but a justice system screw-up has let him largely off the hook. Yet consumers (who make the most noise, push the strongest demands on companies, and can affect the bottom line when they are the customers) are not aware of Radium or able to directly affect the bottom line.
I remain uncertain (expressed on Twitter) whether hounding existing investors is the way forward, but certainly pressuring board members (which will include some but not all existing investors) and customers is probably the way.
Whereas my thoughts on Twitter mobs remain to the negative, this guy beat the hell out of his girl and clearly has issues with violence. He shouldn't be running a company, he isn't fit to.
The court got it wrong (from a moral/ethical perspective as the guy did it, but perhaps right on a technical perspective I'll concede)... and I loathe mobs, but if the court failed to do their job then I come down on the side of the mob (even though that doesn't sit well with me).
Not really. It is far worse IMO to nullify everyone's privacy protections for the sake of a single domestic violence conviction.
There's a 1983 Michael Douglas movie on point: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086356. It's pretty ham-fisted, but the first thirty minutes are a nice portrayal of a judge forced to throw out convictions due to 4th amendment violations by the police. There's a great scene where the prosecutor pleads with the judge to admit evidence in a murder case despite the 4th amendment violation, and the judge replies: "look, I'm just doing my job here--I suggest you start doing yours better."
It's just tough to accept.
The judge has punished the police and prosecutor for doing their job badly, rather than punishing the guy for beating up his girlfriend.
As I understand the article, it's also that she didn't press charges.
“if he were to threaten harm to Ms. Eicher in my presence, I would cheerfully shoot him.” -Eric Raymond
“I agree with Eric that Kvaratskhelia is extremely creepy and reprehensible in his online conduct. But I find one comment of Eric’s really strange and inappropriate: “if he were to threaten Ms. Eicher in my presence, I would cheerfully shoot him.” One can only hope that Eric has been afflicted by foot-in-mouth disease and would not pull the trigger of anything more harmful than a video camera in response to a verbal threat to a woman in his presence. Such threats, though reprehensible, are well handled by the system of justice without the assistance of vigilantes. I could also hope that Eric would not be _cheerful_ in shooting anyone regardless of the context. Strange.” -Bruce Perens
I'm guessing most folks are in the same situation as myself.
His company is private. The most anyone can do is to not do business with him. I think it's absolutely fucked up that he isn't going to prison... but what do you expect people to do? I doubt anyone is going to defend his actions. I don't see how your comparison with Mozilla makes any sense.
I've never even heard of this guy or his company before this. I also wonder if this company has a "coolness" factor. For example, if the CEO of AT&T, Monsanto or some Oil company did this I wouldn't expect outrage from SV since those companies' reputations in SV are already so low that no amount of badness from them would shock the tech-community.
They'd be like just "Huh, yeah... rich execs in evil corps getting away with horrible crimes because our justice system only works when money & ethnicity aren't a factor. yawn. Happens every week. That problem is too big for me. Moving on..."
Not saying this is good... just expectations and moral-bar is set differently for different companies. If the CEO of Mozilla/Facebook/Apple/Google/Dropbox did this we all _KNOW_ the interwebz would freakin' E-X-P-L-O-D-E.
The VCs who have invested in RadiumOne (and are on the board) are: DFJ Esprit, Trinity Ventures, Crosslink Capital, & Adams Street Partners
Additionally, Steve Westly of The Westly Group sits on the board.
The more there is no comment/action from these groups - the less I think any entrepreneurs should work with them in the future.
In the RadiumOne CEO case, the answers to those questions are obvious. I know that, for better or for worse, there are a lot of overly active devil's advocates on HN. But nobody -- nobody -- is going to be rushing to this guy's defense. There is no reflection, discussion, or debate about this guy's behavior, because there's no need for that, because it is so obvious that this guy is 100% in the wrong and needs to be fired. And that means the story gets less attention.
That being said...it will be interesting to see how companies that do business with RadiumOne react. If G remains in place but RadiumOne's clients don't cancel their contracts, then the story will get more interesting.
http://valleywag.gawker.com/ceo-who-pled-guilty-to-domestic-...
The fact that he worked the legal system because he's rich doesn't mean "the Valley" or the rest of the world doesn't have a huge problem with what he did.
Moreover, trying to extrapolate one data point to draw conclusions about the Silicon Valley in its entirety is a really bad argument.
It feels like it should be the other way around to me. When something is influenced by community interests and a number of people make noise there should be a public vote or similar to decide on the offenders fate. It should be up to the community as a whole. A for-profit company needs to get rid of someone as toxic as this as there is a possibility it will effect sales. A for-profit company can't wait around to make a decision like that, it needs to be quick.
This guy is head of an ads company, if the customers refuse to do business with it the board will sack him or they will go bust.
If this guy is named new Mozilla CEO I think that you might see a stronger reaction than that to Brendan Eich.
Edit: For the record I wouldn't want to do business with this man or his company but the Mozilla comparison is completely irrelevant.
First, I have never heard of RadiumOne or this guy, and I suspect that most other people have not, either. While most people have heard of Mozilla.
Second, most people have absolutely nothing to do with this company. I could threaten to boycott RadiumOne's products, but I don't even know what they do. While Mozilla (or DropBox) is a place I can react against.
(I didn't like Eich being forced out, FWIW. I'm just pointing out the practical distinctions.)
Even back then I got a bad vibe(the usual Jobsian psychopatic one) out of the gushing articles written about him.
But ya, the lack of fallout is infuriating...if I was using RadiumOne, I'd boycott until he was gone.
What the hell are you talking about? Literally no one here is saying "Well, I don't really care about women being beaten." There is obviously a huge negative reaction to this, and in case you didn't notice, if there hadn't been serious police misconduct, this guy probably would have been slapped down with forty-five felony charges.
Your assertive language seems to indicate that you have seen this video or are in some other way 100% sure that he is guilty of the act claimed. Maybe you should reserve opinion till you have enough evidence?
Edit : Those who are downvoting me because you disagree with me: this is not reddit. Remember that I wrote a polite and personable reply even though my feelings are as strong as yours.
Furthermore, it's not like it's particularly ambiguous: it's _117_ strikes over a half hour period.
This is like disbelieving Australia exists because you've never physically set foot on it.
Do some prosecutors exaggerate, lie, and withhold evidence? Yes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Morton_%28criminal_just...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Mignini#Allegations_of...
I also think that is the main point in this story, along with the sentence in the article that follows shortly after:
"It is also reported that Kakish declined to press charges."
A quote from the article in the first link states:
> "But perhaps the biggest blow came when Judge Brendan Conroy ruled that surveillance video from Chahal's bedroom - which reportedly captured the 1 1/2-hour attack - had been seized unlawfully by police. The cops claim they took the video without waiting for a warrant because they feared it might get erased, but the judge didn't buy it."
The linked article also suggests that Julia Kakish might have been paid off, neither Chahal's or Kakish's lawyers are saying anything regarding this issue.
The video evidence was thrown out because the judge said it was obtained unlawfully, but does this question the video's authenticity? I don't think it does.