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If you don't mind sharing it, some additional information might give people more insight into what's happening:

- How old are you?

- What's your educational background?

- Are you looking for jobs in Silicon Valley startups or in other kinds of companies somewhere else?

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Responding to Joseph's comment here since I can't reply directly for some reason. Re Dev Bootcamps: I applied to and interviewed with a bunch of them about 6 months ago.

Didn't even hear back from gSchool. Didn't get into App Academy (it was almost as if you already needed to know how to code to get in). Didn't get into Hacker School. Couldn't move to SF for Hack Reactor.

At this point, I'm not sure I'm willing to put up the majority of my remaining savings when I'm not even sure I'm fit to be a developer.

Well you've probably learned and improved in the six months since you last applied, so maybe it's a good time to try again? From what you've posted, a Dev Bootcamp seems like it could be just what you need to get over the hump. Good luck, try not to get discouraged if you enjoy this stuff! :)

I'm not sure what "fit to be a developer" means. People (with very few exceptions) are not born with labels that say "able to write software professionally" or "not able to write software professionally". Try to understand what has prevented you from landing jobs so far. Go through http://sijinjoseph.com/programmer-competency-matrix/ to determine what you lack, and then work on improving those. (Not saying that that link is the ultimate criteria for determining one's suitability as a programmer, just that if you really don't know what you're missing, it will give you some ideas)

I don't like the part about "no circular dependencies." If the language supports it, such as in c#, then why not? There are cases where you want Class A to use a B and Class B to use an A. Unless that's not the kind that they're talking about.

Instead of spending money on a dev boot camp maybe try going through The Odin Project, and beefing up your github. Then maybe join TreeHouse temporarily just to have them help you find a job.

http://www.theodinproject.com/

Around 30 years old, undergrad business degree from a decent state school, and looking everywhere (SV, NYC, LA-area, local area, etc.).

If you have money for Dev Bootcamp or some of the others[1], they help massively with job placement. This is from word of mouth, not personal experience.

[1] http://www.skilledup.com/learn/programming/the-ultimate-guid...

i've heard the opposite, but that might only be through the negative lens of cynical reporters.

Going through a dev bootcamp no longer makes you stand out, imo.

They are basically unlicensed diploma mills though, and considering the glut of them I would not be that comfortable recommending people pay good money for them.

Source: I worked (briefly) for a diploma mill 15 years ago, and I've seen the kind of heartbreak they can cause.

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