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I'm confused. You suspect he stopped donut service for staff fitness reasons, or because there was no point to subsidizing them on-campus if people preferred to buy them elsewhere.

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I don't get it either and I have no idea why you're being downvoted.

One time when I attended WWDC all the food served was vegan at the main social event. The impression here is Job's food preferences filter down as a mandate for all. At least in this instance.

Then there was WWDC in 2002 where there was a mound of Krispy Kreme donuts for the afternoon snacks.

OMG, I remember that year! It was even worse in 2003 when they moved it to Moscone. Fresh made Jamba Juice and mounds of Krispy Kreme donuts galore. It was super gross to be honest. :-) I haven't eaten a Krispy Kreme donut since that year.

sounds unoptimal

I can explain.

a. It was bought on-campus.

b. If he stopped all donut services because of one guy who looked unhealthy, then it again shows how capricious he was. One person who looked a little unhealthy ate a donut on one occasion and he removed donuts from every single store on campus for every single person for no reason other than he didn't like to see someone who looked pasty and obese walking around eating a donut.

Because that's the sort of guy Steve Jobs was. A sociopath.

Funny, I thought it was the discount price that was the cause, Jobs thinking people will only buy later for cheaper and he'll lose profits (I pictured him making money from Apple's cafeteria)

Jobs wasn't really motivated by money. Not like other people were, at any rate.

Why would he intentionally screw Woz out of money then?

to prove a point

Yeah, I bet he spent a lot of time thinking about the price points of the cafeteria...

As a counterpoint (and believe me, I take no pleasure in defending Jobs here) it would probably have been illegal to ban donut sales only to the obese.

I... don't think the GP was suggesting he should have done that...

Controlling, yeah, but that makes Steve a sociopath?

Is Michelle Obama a sociopath too?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/6/1m-kids-stop-...

The Washington Times? Are you a right wing Moonie nutcase?

Overreaction to sarcasm.

And you must be a member of this thought police that seem to be invading every aspect of out lives.

You clearly haven't heard of the Washington Times. The world must be new and full of wonder for you.

I just posted the first link that came up when I googled for Michelle Obama school lunch or something like that.

The poster to whom I was responding was associating the control of menus with sociopathy. I was simply pointing out that the First Lady is on record as attempting to do the same thing at a much larger scale.

You didn't bother to check the source? This is the Moonie-run "newspaper" that puts quotes on gay "marriage." The text of the article you posted is full of lunacy.

No, I wasn't. I was referring to all the many, many clear documented other things that leads me to believe that Jobs was a sociopath. This is just one more example. To then turn around and accuse Michelle Obama of being a sociopath because of school lunches is, frankly, absurd. The response to your comments was actually pretty measured, given the ridiculousness of your answer.

Except that it is well known by people who follow this that the Washington Times is hardly any better than those tabloids that talk about Bigfoot or whatever. Read this article about its (now late) founder and tell me if you think he had a couple of screws loose: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61932-2004Jun... -- basically it's as if Kim Jong Il ran an American newspaper.

>Because that's the sort of guy Steve Jobs was. A sociopath.

Yes, god forbid someone takes our precious donuts away from us...

Could sympathy not have played a part? Given his position, Jobs could conceptually have held himself responsible for enabling poor nutrition.

Indeed, most organizations that offer on-site catering have such paternalistic concerns. Google historically (I don't know if it still does) limits and effectively taxes unhealthy food, while providing healthy food for free. Does that make Sergey and Page sociopaths?

I will add the disclaimer that what is healthy or not is a passing fancy, enduring unending change. But people act on the best knowledge they have, and often the best intentions.

A sociopath in the right job.

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