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I don't know why, but this makes me feel good. Like a world that makes sense. A regular old business, that makes money and continues to grow and make more money, gets valued on a nice speculative curve, doesn't make useless dodads or chat apps or whatever and went from $0 to $xx billion valuation in a couple years because it has some possible tangential business tie in with somebody else, but instead makes something useful.

It feels like the universe makes sense again.

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Haha, that was my thought too. A evaluation for a company that actually adds value instead of smoke and mirrors.

Sort of. But it drives me crazy that WhatsApp was bought for like 5x as much.

Soft of. It was bought with highly volatile and overvalued stock.

>doesn't make useless dodads or chat apps or whatever

To be fair, Atlassian makes HipChat, and though it's not exactly the foundation of their valuation it is a pretty significant product.

To be fair, Atlassian bought HipChat :)

They bought Crucible and Bitbucket too, doesn't make them any less an Atlassian product.

I didn't even realise BitBucket wasn't originally an Atlassian product. What do you think makes it seem so seamless, or what makes Atlassian so good at integrating new products?

TBH I would say they are "ok" at integrating products. Until last year I worked at a company that used Atlassian products, and while they worked well together there were definitely a lot of points of integration that were missing which we felt should have been there. It's been getting better over time, but it's definitely not seamless.

BitBucket/JIRA/Confluence integration could be much tighter. BitBucket definitely feels like an island IME.

That said, it's most of what you want from Github at much more reasonable rates. So I'm very happy with it outside of the positive network effects of forking on Github (I rarely see a lib I want to fork on BitBucket).

Can you use HipChat for free for personal use or is it strictly enterprise?

HipChat isn't like SnapChat though. If you go to their homepage, right up in the header they've got a link to their pricing page. You don't have to wonder who they're selling you to or what convoluted monetization schemes they have, Atlassian makes money because people pay them for a service that they think is valuable. Which is refreshing.

I thought the implicit comparison was more to WhatsApp, which also directly charges users (SnapChat is, despite the name, not really a "chat" app).

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