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They do seem to be the best in a very competitive market. There are loads of either commercial or open source issue trackers, wikis, combinations of both, etc. etc. How will they grow past that ? Acqusitions? Writing custom JIRA plugins that will make it more like an ERP ? Ideas?

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> There are loads of either commercial or open source issue trackers, wikis, combinations of both, etc. etc

Yes, and they all suck. They go from a pain to use (Bugzilla) to a huge mountain of useless and worthless crap with a obscene price tag (Rational tools)

It seems to me they are in the right path

For just straight-up bug tracking, Bugzilla isn't all that bad. Though we do some fun interactions where we put SCM commit messages on a bug as a comment, then have a Greasemonkey script to pretty format those commit comments on bugs.

For feature tracking of timeline type of views, Bugzilla is fairly useless, but for just doing bugs, it does a good job.

> Yes, and they all suck.

Redmine ain't bad.

I love redmine, it's been really good and 0 upkeep for my company for a couple of years now.

I hope you don't mean literally zero because there have been numerous Rails vulnerabilities in the intervening time. If you're been running the same instance for a few years unpatched and publicly accessible, chances are good your installation is owned.

Not my case. I didnt mean literally zero but we never hit a bug.

It's not bad, still, it tries to be too similar to Trac

Trello.

It's newer than Jira

and?

Bugzilla is much easier to use than Jira; it does what it needs to (tracks bugs) and gets out of your way, rather than having eleventy different modes and dialog boxes and view rules to confuse you when you just want to resolve bug x.

One of the biggest value-adds with Atlassian is the synergy between products. Bamboo, JIRA, BitBucket, and HipChat all integrate nicely together.

Eg. I put a JIRA ticket number in a commit message to a BitBucket repo. Bamboo is watching that repo and runs a build with the ticket # in message. The ticket number has also already been interpreted and links straight back to JIRA where you can mark the issue as deployed.

Isn't JIRA already using some Apache Ofbiz (pretty fullish ERP + e-commerce platform) components? That would be going pretty much full circle.

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