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> We do not tell you the company name for a few reasons

Has anyone ever tried testing whether the downsides of revealing the company name (except in case 3) really do outweigh the potential upsides?

I'd like to say that I would respond to more recruiters if they offered concrete information about the opportunities. It's really hard to decide if I want to invest time in a relationship with a recruiter based on... well, nothing.

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I don't like the way I do business but I don't really have a choice in the company I am in. It all boils down to the business model of the recruitment companies and who owns them. Most recruitment company owners are people who have excelled at sales in recruitment and have risen up through the ranks to get enough money to fund their own ventures. They then want to rip people off to make as much money as possible, they see candidates as cattle and think there is enough companies out there to rip them off and still have a viable business model. I love all these start ups that are trying to disrupt the industry but your gonna have to lift you game to beat these people, they are quick and ruthless and the phone is their weapon, its the cheapest and most effective way to make money

> they see candidates as cattle

I think most candidates sense this and this is why they shy away from and react negatively to recruiters.

My last comment wasn't necessarily directed at you personally -- more wondering if the recruiting industry has locked itself into its own paradigm and whether anyone has done testing to see whether or not that actually is a valid paradigm.

I understand I was just mentioning that people do try new things but the majority of managers and owners don't want to break a model that makes them serious coin, it will happen sooner or later but until then they will beat it to death.

The essence is that recruiters are salesmen, and sales and engineering have ever been at odds. We cannot do our jobs without the raw, steaming, unvarnished truth, and they cannot do theirs without polishing, perfuming, and airbrushing the product.

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