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>I can’t help noticing that 100% of the people I see who are building the future and making the big bucks are ethnically Chinese, Indian, or white. And 100% of the people I see who are washing floors or guarding doors or serving fast food are black and Mexican and Central-American.

I am sorry I used to think that Tim Bray was a smart guy. Hell Indians in India are far more poorer than African Americans. Now if some indians worked hard and pulled themselves up, and got jobs / started companies in SF. But hey its still racism. There is no institutional racism, what exists is a black latino culture that looks down upon education. Thats the problem that needs to be addressed not some institutional racism boogeyman.

People want to work with other people who will help them succeeds in fact Asians and Indians show that SF is not at all racist.

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While he's definitely wrong on several accounts, you are as well. 1. How do Indians in India being poorer affect this? Obviously the ones in extreme poverty aren't the ones coming and working in the US. 2. You provide no evidence of black latino culture (I assume you mean black and latino cultures, since they're separate entities) looking down upon education. You seem to fail to grasp what exactly institutional racism is, because lack of education of minority groups who tend to live in lower socioeconomic areas is institutional racism. 3. SF can indeed be racist against other groups, even if it isn't against all minority groups.

> There is no institutional racism, what exists is a black latino culture that looks down upon education.

I'll bite my tongue here for what I really want to say, but dear god was this an extremely ignorant and offensive thing to say.

He's probably still pretty smart with computer stuff, he's just not capable of talking about other topics. If I were him I'd generally try not to insult whole groups of people and entire cities.

No, this is incorrect..

You solve ignorance by involving ignorant in conversations..

This is such an un-informed comment. It is completely ignorant of American history. You understand that American game-rigging like redlining, and unequal drug sentencing, and racial profiling, exist now and/or have existed in the lifetimes of most adults today?

Sure, some people get lucky, or work really hard. But on average, the game is rigged.

If you want to overcome your ignorance of this topic, you might want to check out Ta-Nehisi Coates' blog. He's excellent on these issues. Some starting points that relate to what you've written --

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/02/i-am-sti...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/the-cham...

I wonder if he believes that the poorest Indians, if only they worked harder, could be here starting companies.

> Sure, some people get lucky, or work really hard. But on average, the game is rigged.

It's rigged really badly against immigrants (counting H1B workers as immigrants too) as well.

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