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I love the edit markers in the last screenshot. But too skeptical about the performance of a text editor running in webkit. All of my experiences writing text online have been bad. So the jump into using webkit for an entire dev environment fills me with dread.

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I like my (GitGutter's) concept of displaying removed lines better. This screenshot makes me think line 11 was removed. But I am looking right at it!

Yep, GitGutter is great. Thanks for making it.

Brackets[1] is a decent programmer's text editor developed by Adobe and using WebKit. It works fine. The performance and polish of web editor components like CodeMirror has come on a long way in the past couple of years.

[1] http://brackets.io/index.html [2] http://codemirror.net/

Have you used LightTable? It's quite fast as the editor. I'm sure Atom is similarly fast. It doesn't run in the browser; it just uses WebKit as the engine.

Light table is only fast is you are a slow writer, the vim mode in it is painfully slow. Webkit base editors like LT and Brackest are unusable to me.

I'm a pretty fast writer and I never had any problem with LightTable's vim mode. Maybe it's just me though, I don't know.

The nice thing about Vim mode is that it glosses over latency by making simple edits take fewer keystrokes. It's sort of why vi was invented.

In the words of Bill Joy himself:

> ... you've got to remember that I was trying to make it usable over a 300 baud modem. That's also the reason you have all these funny commands. It just barely worked to use a screen editor over a modem. It was just barely fast enough. A 1200 baud modem was an upgrade. 1200 baud now is pretty slow.

> 9600 baud is faster than you can read. 1200 baud is way slower. So the editor was optimized so that you could edit and feel productive when it was painting slower than you could think. Now that computers are so much faster than you can think, nobody understands this anymore.

This is already possible using gitgutter in both Vim and ST, and I've never noticed an impact on performance.

Indeed, I'm using it in ST and I haven't noticed an impact on performance.

Screenshot: http://share.qpleple.com/U8eN

Same I use it every day ... perfect plugin :)

Yeah, as the create of GitGutter for ST, my first thought was, cool if I switch to this I can write GitGutter in CoffeeScript. Then I thought, being Github, they would probably bake that in.

Codebox works awesomely well, and you can host it locally. Still has bugs, but they do releases often.

To put "often" in context, I raised a Github issue on it today which was resolved within a few hours, it's improving incredibly quickly (and it's already awesome).

Exactly. It's still very new, but it's really worth a shot if you need the cloud-ide solution.

We use to for Go and Docker. Currently, it's very nice. Even has auto-complete - though it has a long way to go.

I thought CodeBox was using the ACE editor as part of their system like Cloud9. And I believe Orion and Codenvy (my company) use CodeMirror. Looking forward to trying out Atom. I can see many advantages already of it as an editor.

Would be really interested to chat to you about Codebox + Docker, email is ben at talkingquickly co uk or talkingquickly on twitter

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