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> Programming is also a skill, but it’s not at all intuitive or tangible. Without guided learning, it’s impossible to even get started.

That's total b.s. I taught myself programming in middle school by reading books.

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I think he would consider books as "guided learning."

Correct. Programming is not intuitive, so you need something (like books) to help you. I suppose you could learn by pure trial and error, but that's really only helpful after you've picked up a lot of the basic syntax.

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