Show HN: What to use instead of WhatsApp

However, there's a big difference between: #1. Communication is protected so that absolutely no one can access it #2. Communication is protected against mass surveillance/Google/Facebook/marketing company's who abuse people's privacy.

In my opinion, for 99% of all people, #2 is what they need. #1 is not needed and probably not even possible, because people are not willing and not capable to take all the measures needed to achieve #1 (unlike for example companies/governments where data is highly classified and more resources are available to achieve this).

Anyways the way i see it, Whatsapp has shown in the past that (not encrypting their messages for example) it doesn't care about protecting people's privacy. Obviously since they are acquired by Facebook all privacy is lost.

Threema for example (and Telegram, Chatsecure,...) do value privacy, and it's also simple, so even your 60 year old mom can set it up and use it.

I've used threema for about a year and dived into an older version of the client and found it good enough (assuming you're more bothered about the provider knowing what you're doing rather than the NSA etc.).

The valuation doesn't support the value of the 50 employees or the development time of the application but it does support the number of customers. That's what was brought and what will be used by Facebook.