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Good, but we expect much more from a major java release (i know that there are also some other improvements, but not too much). I would even welcome an applet come-back (with some fresh ideas and some strong answers for the browser security related issues, keeping the old good java stack, not just the name like in case of JavaFX)

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> Good, but we expect much more from a major java release (i know that there are also some other improvements, but not too much).

If the introduction of lambdas and streams is not enough for you, nothing will be.

As justingregoryuk mentioned, i am thinking more on java as the platform. Why they (Oracle) don't come out with some innovation in this field? There are endless possibilities and they are sleeping.

Yes, they should push the platform not the language. There is still a very big potential in java. I am thinking about something like java se on ios. Or a new mobile platform based on java se. Or even better: a platform with html user interface and everything other java se. Firefox made it on javascript.

There are projects that do something along the line of both of your suggestions. For iOS, there's a project called RoboVM. (it's still claimed to be alpha, but the game engine LibGDX uses it to deploy to iOS). For web, there's GWT, which allows you to develop web apps in Java and it compiles to HTML/CSS/JS (or something along that line, though I hear it's verbose. LibGDX/PlayN use it to deploy to the browser though)

RoboVM is very promising. I bookmarked it some time ago, but unfortunately i don't see any progress since then. For example there are still no any documentation.

the answer to applet security problems is HTML5

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