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Replying to myself, but for those who haven't tried Python Tools for Visual Studio - http://pytools.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=PTVS%20Installati... - take a hard look at it. Once you get it working (which is a bit annoying with flask), its a beauty for debugging complex object mutation/state problems, etc

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Thanks for mentioning the "Python Tools for Visual Studio". We are working to establish Django+Python environments and needed suggestions for good IDE's since majority of the devs are on Windows.

How do you compare Python Tools for Visual Studio to PyCharm?

We piloted PyCharm at work (500+ python devs) but found VS to be an easier ide to write specialized extensions for - e.g. custom source control, workflow tools, etc.

Nothing beats the quickness of sublimetext, but when you're hunting after more complex gremlins or doing remote process debugging, a good IDE is key.

I also met PTVS guys at last PyCon and they are very approachable.

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