How the US Treasury imposes sanctions on me and every other "Stephen Law"
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May be a start-up idea for prospective parents to run the names and ensure that before they name their babies, those are not on some list. But then what if someone gets on the list later on ? So it seems like a very unique name is really the option.
Also, do these special lists really flag people just by their names ? really ? I mean how many John Smiths can there be in this world and god forbid if one of them decides to do something "special". What about other attributes ? Is it really hard to have the unique key as (first name,last name, gender, age, place of birth, citizenship, blah blah) instead of just (first name, last name) and boom, you are flagged.
EDIT: Based on some comments, it might be a good idea to have a legal name that is very unique and a social name/nickname that is the usual John Smithy type. This way, when you deal with legal/customs whatever, use the crazily unique legal name while on the internet, use a nickname.
Also, while we are discussing names, I seriously suggest you to register domain names (and gmail/fb whatever) for yourself and kids if not already. Again unfortunate, but reality of this era. I have already booked domains names for my 1 year old and another one who is coming soon.
There's always been a feature of childhood that I feel is paramount: the freedom to alter one's identity. The child is still in beta; they're a person that's not officially released to the public.
Forcing them, from the start, to stick a single identity can be problematic psychologically and socially.
Encouraging situational pseudonymity is not equal to the revocation of one's legal identity, from now until death.
I can say with certainty that, had I not had the benefits of pseudonymity offered by the internet of the 90s and 00s, I would be a fundamentally broken person.
Then we should work to make that future unlikely. Even if things come to be as you describe, we should build in strict social/technical safeguards of (at the very least) pseudonymity until we much better understand the development the human mind.
[edit in response to your edited post] It seems we're pretty much in agreement, just coming at the issue from different points of devil's advocacy.
I agree. I'm very grateful to have a common name. Nate Perkins is about as generic as it gets. Global searches for my name come up with a variety of people completely unrelated to me.
Still, there are potential downsides. For instance, searching for "[my name] [my city]" brings up a mugshot of someone who isn't me. And of course, Stephen Law of the original post has a much more frustrating issue.
None of us are really in a position to say with certainty "it's better to have a common name than an uncommon one" or vice versa.
I would argue that pseudonymity is necessary to overcome negative situations arising from having a common name or having an uncommon name. But this argument is strictly from my own experience and should be taken as such.
Like most things, it comes down to the importance of teaching kids to think critically about how their choices will affect themselves and their environment rather than accepting truisms not backed by relevant statistics.
I'm in the process of transitioning to a single username everywhere based on the domain ngp.io, which itself is essentially "[my intials] I/O". I like the elegance and conciseness of it. But I'm extremely glad that I didn't do something like this earlier. My childhood online (as well as my "online childhood", if you catch my meaning) remain obscure to all but those with the necessary time, resources and motivation.
That's surprisingly powerful when you're surrounded by swarms of people whose entire histories can be looked up in a matter of minutes.
It can also be damning; I'm reminded of the line in Mad Men referring to Don Draper, "He has no people! You can't trust a person like that." Being the mysterious man from out of town might be alluring from a sexual stance, but business-wise it's still difficult to advance without strong geographically-rooted social networks, and the first step to creating those nowadays is often glancing at someone's Facebook or Twitter and exclaiming "hey, I know that person too!" Personhood is partially defined by your connection to other people, so having a visible interpersonal history is, in a sense, required for passing the Turing tests you're subjected to by those around you. Gaps in your history, on purpose or by accident, can result in being treated like a subhuman.
Yes, and those people would be rather utopian about how a lack of anonymity helps clean up the internet. Most trolls are proud of their idiocy.
My friend's first name is "Spider." It is not her birth name, but she's used it professionally and personally her entire adult life.
When she signed up for Facebook they told her she couldn't be "Spider" because somebody (Sony probably) decided that wasn't a "real" name (Spider Robinson and Spider Sabich notwithstanding.) If she wanted to use "Spider" Facebook needed a legal ID with that name on it (which she does not have.)
So she registered under "Spidie" instead with no further problems.
Whenever a website (or anything offline that might put rankings or whatever online) wants me to use my real name, I usually default to "Alex", "Alex M/MJ" or "Alex (gibberish)" depending on their guidelines. What they view as a policy that "encourages openness", I view as something that will guide first impressions when people google me unto eternity.
Even if it's not controversial, it's the first thing a potential client or employer sees when they type things into google, and I don't want to be reckless with that. I don't want to have to view every minor action that I make on a website as something that's potentially going to be on the front page of google's results for my name.
When I was in HS, my friends had a poker league, and we all had nicknames and personas - someone put up a page with hilarious (but decidedly unprofessional) caricatures and quotes and it was the first thing that showed up under my name. I noticed it and asked my friend to change it, which he though was hilarious but understood and did.
Same for Meetup. A long time ago I went to some meetups that could potentially be alienating to some folks (agnostics and whatever, way back in the day when I felt it was worth arguing about) and BOOM, google front page for my name. If I had a client who was somewhat religious, I don't care at all but I don't want that to show up and all of a sudden I'm accidentally alienating people. For showing up to something.
Whenever I run a 5k or do anything remotely prestigious I always use my full name so that the front page of google just gets filled with that kind of thing in case anything else that's potentially a liability pops up and I don't notice it. It's annoying.
BOOM, google front page for my name
Trying to fly under the radar, as you do, may be some solution, but it makes the mistakes like this one stick out even more boldly.
I've found that over the years, there's enough of a heap on the web that matches my name, that garbage like you mention is overwhelmed by the more meaningful stuff. A search for me typically turns up my LinkedIn profile, the product page on Amazon for a book I co-authored, some CodeProject articles, and stuff like that.
Just having a life's worth of stuff out there lets a smart search engine ignore much of the stuff that I'd want them to ignore.
>I don't want to have to view every minor action that I make on a website as something that's potentially going to be on the front page of google's results for my name.
It's true that I try to make every post to the Internet be something that I wouldn't worry about showing up in such a search.
But as a result, when people find me, they do have a lot of real data about me -- and I get job offers and consulting offers all the time.
I do not think it's a bad thing to be able to be Googled; what's a bad thing is to let yourself be a jerk online -- and it's important to Google yourself from time to time to see if something like your friend's page is showing up.
The Meetup point is a good one, though. It would be nice to be able to (optionally) conceal your presence in a Meetup. Be it related to atheism or religion or sexual orientation or recovering alcoholism or even stamp collecting or trainspotting, there are a lot of groups that one might want to join that they wouldn't necessarily want to shout about to everyone. And that's not the fault of having a unique name -- anyone in any Meetup group that I'm in will certainly be able to "out" me as a member of any other Meetup group that I'm a member of, even if I'm named John Smith. And it's entirely likely that I'll share professional Meetup groups with potential employers.
People should not have to compensate for the actions of broken people. Celebrities know how to be functional in this situation: share everything, and get restraining orders.
Right... I shouldn't have to lock my door, I shouldn't have to avoid dark alleys, I should be able to carry as much cash as I please... but I live in an unjust reality in which it is frequently prudent to take basic precautions.
I looked into getting a restraining order once, after a petty argument online (before I learned better and began using pseudonyms while discussing anything of interest) turned extremely sour. Turns out that since I was never in a sexual relationship with the other person, the state I was currently living in limited my options to "suck it up", or "get a CCW". The general concept of a restraining order is not universally recognized.
(Furthermore, restraining orders are not preventive, they only provide a form of retaliation after the fact. They won't stop somebody from hiding in a bush outside your front door, they'll just allow you to have the police slap them with a restraining order violation after you discover them in your bush. Appealing to restraining orders to protect you is like appealing to burglary laws to protect you. You still need to lock up your home...)
Ehhh, it's not always that.
For awhile I was big into writing speculative/science fiction on a popular writing site. Years later after reading some of my submissions I have to say I'm extremely happy that they were done under a pseudonym :)
They were absolutely terrible.
There are places for pseudonymity. My name here isn't my real name, I should note, though it probably wouldn't be hard to trace it to my identity.
It isn't as easy for someone to Google and find an HN comment I made, but I still try to keep things clean here.
Aside from death threats (which I dismiss as joking), I've been signed up to hundreds of porn and adult mailing lists and sites, I've had reports of my photo and vague details being used on lots of "m4m" casual sex adverts, and I've had the "here's a streetview of where you live, we know where you live" type intimidation.
I'm really glad that the efforts of a few trolls doesn't really show on Google because my name is fairly common and there are some people who share the name who have achieved some fame or popularity. The result of the top-ranking stuff means the work of the trolls is nowhere to be seen.
If I had a unique name I've no doubt that it would have been trashed thanks to other people.
My point is simply: You may think you are in control of your online identity, but you are not.
I think having a strong web presence myself means that the work of any would-be trolls would struggle to make it onto the front page -- though I do ask that would-be trolls reading this not try to prove me wrong, thank you. :)
Out of curiosity, what sites would you say have been constructive?
My intuition is that StackExchange would probably be good if you're knowledgeable in esoteric/lucrative fields, whereas most people probably don't use their real name on reddit (depending on the subreddit, perhaps), but I'm interested to hear your experience.
Honestly I don't know how people find me. I just state my opinions often on the topics I care about. And at least some of the time people respond favorably to those opinions.
http://familyrights.us/bin/white_papers-articles/nothing_to_...
I called out Meetup's policy explicitly as a privacy problem, and I'm not arguing for reduced overall privacy over any aspect of someone's life they decide they'd prefer to keep private.
What exactly did you mean for me to learn from reading that paper?
I still think it's right to support privacy. But I'm not arguing against a right to privacy. I'm arguing that if I want to put my name out there, I should be able to.
I'm confused why my right to want to promote myself on the Internet is being questioned (and downvoted above!!) on HN of all places.
Most of the first page of google results for my alias are me... combined with my name, you get even more. I think adopting an online alias is kind of important, but then again, I started off in the BBS days with dialup boards that were pretty much all local to you.
While security through obscurity wont work against a sophisticated opponent, its enough to prevent casual snooping.
I asked him about how he thinks that has effected him. His take is that although it might turn off some brain-dead HR people, since there is no actual ambiguity (he surely is not an executed person) it hasn't negatively impacted him too much but it does push all the relevant links off the first few google results pages unless he actively does SEO stuff to correct it. He asserts that it gives him a good deal of control over what google shows for his name.
I've taken a similar approach to online pseudonyms. Any work that I don't intend to be attached to my 'meatspace' identity is done under names that will return irrelevant results when googled, making it difficult to find my other accounts that may have the same pseudonym on other sites.
Funny how I didn't notice when being easily googlable started to be considered a bad thing.
I don't mean to pile on you personally, but this issue always pushes my buttons. It seems like whenever it comes up, there's always those who are absolutely incredulous that anyone wouldn't want to be all over the internet. Worse, I've even seen the reaction where some people think that it means the person must be untrustworthy, as if they are the ones who did something wrong.
If someone wants to be all over the front page of Google when someone searches their name, I think that's fine if that's what they want. Just don't assume that everyone wants (or should want) the same thing.
You could go one step further: Give your child a name such that, if someone tries to put the name on a list in the future, they'll lose their entire database instead [1].
Get to the level of names so common sanctions are impossible. If a name is now something many entity a long distance away can just sanction, best to be John Smith or David Jones since he would be at least protected by numbers
Famous last words, I know but it would be hard to sanction all the world's David Jones'
you could be thinking of ethnicity, which might be easier, but nationality definitely not
see: stephen law. american? british? australian? new zealand? canadian? south african? dutch? french? danish? jamaican? bahamian? chinese? singaporean? HK?
nationality means citizenship, which means which passport you carry. it has nothing to do with names.
Sure, you'd be hard pressed to guess the nationality of most people with standard Spanish and English names, and people can make a lot of wrong inferences about nationality because of migration, intermarriage (recently I've lived with Britons with very obviously Polish, Italian and Spanish-diaspora names respectively) or ethnic groups overlapping borders.
You'd also be wrong in thinking that Lo Ping Zhong was likely to be a citizen of China rather than Myanmar, but you'd still be more inclined to background check his company more than Stephen Law's.
When I Google Stephen Law, I actually get the Stephen Law who wrote article.
When I Google David Jones, I get the company and then the lengthy Wikipedia disambiguation page.
Personally, I don't mind that if you pull up my name, you find me though YMMV.
The really bad thing IMO would be having a fairly uncommon name and sharing it with someone notorious. You don't even need to get into Do-Not-Fly lists and the like. I had a classmate a long while back (pre-web) who lived in New York and he apparently shared his name with someone who got into a very public spat with George Steinbrenner. My classmate got all sorts of phone calls and even death threats.
BTW it costs a few hundred bugs to change name
Apart from being overly paranoid, this is not really workable at a demographic level. Far easier, demographically, to just change your name in the rare event where this happens.
I imagine just googling a name is pretty close to being a certain test for it's existence.
Yes. Yes they do. Welcome to the security theatre!
The financial list discussed in this posting sounds much, much more onerous.
Couldnt check in online. Unable to use Kiosk to check in Had to show ID at counter. Had SSSS on every boarding pass - with random extra inspection for every tlight
Then one day, it stopped, now knock on wood I can check in online or at kiosk.
I honestly can't tell if you are being sarcastic.
I've always wondered if the President matched a name on the list, would they hassle him/her as well?
I don't see a workaround for shipping, but for wire transfers there's bitcoin, if there's an exchange somewhere that won't have to deal with this when converting money back to your national currency. (Perhaps someday, bitcoins will be spendable enough so that step won't be necessary.)
My name contains the character ö, so every time I'm asked to give out my true name here in the US, I have to remember to not do that, and instead state my name as it's transcribed to ASCII in my passport. One time I booked plane tickets and wrote my last name as SCHRODER on the ticket, instead of SCHROEDER as it says on the passport. This was a HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE THE NAMES DON'T MATCH.
Yes, but, look, they're both wrong, and they're close enough that surely you can see they're the same?
My husband has three first names, the middle of which is his given name, and one last name. For some reason when he applied for his EAD, the last letter of his third first name fell off (I'm guessing character limit in some field in some system), so when we was getting his SSN, there was a huge problem, because again, THE NAMES DIDN'T MATCH!!! So it was just gonna take weeks longer to receive it, presumably because some other human has to look at it and ok it. There was also not enough space in the first name field, so he got some of his first names moved to the middle name field instead. I'm sure this will cause all sorts of fun and hijinks in the future if someone tries to match the name kind by kind, instead of just the full name.
The rule that causes you trouble, the name on the ticket must exactly match the name on the passport, stems from this era.
Somewhat embarrassing, because I knew of Jacquie previously, though I'd never seen her name written.
The airlines are pretty smart about this problem to ensure their passengers don’t get caught up in this - I’ve had them change the name on my booking before at check in because the travel agent didn’t do it right.
Austria now, by default, gives people the option to put a notice in the page facing the name page that says in multiple languages that Schroeder is equivalent to Schröder. Not sure if the Germans do it too... can’t hurt to ask.
As such, I am completely unable to maintain any level of anonymity in the world today. It's trivial to find anything I've been up to by using Google or Bing. You can even see my entire family and what they've been up to and there's no doubt they're my family because my last name is so rare.
I seriously considered changing my last name to Smith. I think it's better to have nefarious people drown in a sea of false positives than it is to give them pinpoint accuracy directly to me (as I have today) or few enough false positives (as Stephen Law has) that they catch a lot of innocent people in their wide net.
I actually know some people with the Smith last name. Every time they buy a house, the title insurance company provides them a list of deadbeats with their exact same name and they simply sign a form saying, "Not me" and their transaction continues.
Imagine if they wanted to put John Smith or Joseph Brown on the OFAC list. They'd never be able to.
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/SDN-List/P...
1. Screen by name and date of birth (sometimes only year of birth only) for all lists (EU, US, Australia, etc); with some tolerance 2. Manually match against address, sex, etc
Now for some of these lists, depending on the vendor which is used, they may also have information on where the person(s) were last seen (perhaps they're from China and recently visited UK based on public information); not only their country of residence. So this means, if you happen to have a birthday sufficiently close to someone on the list (+-2 yrs) and they happen to be last seen in the country you reside in, then they would have to do the whole manual checking.
Now this seems like a lot of work, but when you consider things like reputation risk of getting caught and the possible fines, banks would rather screw over their own customer (or outright refuse to do certain transactions to certain countries) than doing what is best for their customers.
For the other attributes which are available like sex, it is sometimes used, but often for manual checking. Data is often too messy to have a viable real-time solution for screening. It is often cheaper to get someone from India to do it for you, rather than re-haul a whole database to have it done "properly". This is the unfortunate reality.
If you're a criminal or marked as such, you couldn't 1) keep your ill gotten money, 2) make money from selling your stories about your criminal exploit, 3) can't make legit money once you get out of jail since nobody hire felons, 4) branded even more if you're a sex offender, 5) can't get on planes due to no-fly list, 6) can't get sent money if you're on the treasury list.
All of these are of course, "well intentioned", but it does collateral damages. If your name is even "Stephen Law", you can't get wired money. AML laws forced banks to spend a shitload of money spying on people's finance that would otherwise be spent on more productive activities. Oh, it disallow banks and other money related services from forming, creating olipologies and monopolies. People who aren't terrorists are now on the no-fly list for no reason or because of procedural mistakes. Now they drive and die in motor vechicle accidents. Felons cannot contribute to society or get because nobody wants to hire them, so they became the underclass in societies and some of them will turn back to criminal behaviors.
Obviously, there are measure worth implementing, but they must be judged not on just preventing crimes, but also the cost to societies. Heck, some of these measure aren't even effective, and wastes policing resource.
Arguably Myanmar's 60 million mostly impoverished people deserve as much consideration as a pretty large number of innocent people with the name Stephen/Steven Law.
You have a couple of choices:
1: Decide that the net cost to living in civilization is worse than the benefit, and go and live with some nomadic hunter-gatherers somewhere.
2: Vote to change policies you disagree with, and live with the ones that you are in the minority on.
And no "the person you vote for does", or any other wording of such, is not a decent response to this for a multitude of reasons.
Believed by whom? That's just a make-believe success story of those imposing these policies. Certainly haven't affected any other junta with or without drugs.
Interesting side note:
I occasionally get email that is directed at that Zac Brown. Including a guy asking if I would play a gig at their company retreat (I agreed to), a guy asking about boat decals (I didn't like them), and a guy just looking to catch up for old times sake (I informed him that I was the wrong guy but wished him the best).
Somebody who works for the guy even added me on LinkedIn (I accepted because why not).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17073-2004Aug...
Adding a letter to my last name was enough to not match anymore.
I find it curious how so many specific powers that have been granted to government were allowed not because they were universally acceptable, but because they were impossible to enforce widely.
As automatic monitoring and enforcement get easier, I suspect we'll have a more robust debate on what types of laws are acceptable, because there will be so little room for leeway.
This is not a recent development. We've had name based no-fly lists[1] since at least 2001.
And if it has to be a real name, just put the name of your spouse, friend or family member on it.
Of course all of that just illustrates how utterly ineffective such an OFAC blockade is.
Homonymity is never really an asset: you don't control it as you can control anonymity and pseudonymity.
This is why any list does not work as its non-specific whereas if we get specific about metadata that is combined with the name than we have an effective block list instead of a government cluster fuck.
https://ofac.data-list-search.com/Entities/ByName/peter-grif...
I can confirm that to the best of my knowledge, he's not a Burmese drug trafficker but a mild-mannered philosophy professor in London. :)
Problem solved.
Otherwise, why have the check at all?
It's cack-handed bureaucracy of course but this is like saying that companies occasionally sending bills to dead people means that computers are a bad idea. This is the price you pay for automation.
I really hope he at least sent a real letter.
It seems common for criminals to get fake ID and associate it with their bank accounts, etc. So it might be an (illegal?) solution.