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IIRC, DataHands are super expensive and have a high learning curve. Anyone looking to upgrade should consider a Kenesis, wait for Mark 13: http://launch.keyboard.io/

That said, I toggle between chiclets and a kenesis.

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There is also the Ergodox... but I think its expensive and you have to do it yourself. But boy it is beautiful.

I thought about an Ergodox; I don't mind soldering, but I decided against it anyway, because to me it looks like it's a bit short on the "ergo" -- it will help with the need to rotate the wrists outward, but they still have to rotate out of the neutral position in order to address keys on a flat keyboard, which makes the Ergodox look to me rather like a Kinesis Advantage without the Advantage.

It's not too difficult to add tenting to the Ergodox; just replace some of the screws with a longer variety so they act as legs. Also some of the Kinesis Freestyle tenting accessories have been adapted to the Ergodox to address these issues. It's a really hackable design, which is the main draw.

I would add that the flatness is only a problem with the kits sold through Massdrop, which use the laser-cut acrylic case. The original source files for the Ergodox include a model for a case which can be made on a 3D printer. That model does include some minor tenting.

i LOVE my Kinesis. Such a fantastic keyboard... anytime I have to use a normal keyboard it makes me a bit sad.

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