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Linode CLI

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Why not also release to CPAN? It would make managing the dependencies easier for those not installing the packages from homebrew/apt.

Lets not forget the benefit of the automated test army known as CPAN Testers. You release to CPAN they test it across many versions of each major operating system Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, DragonflyBSD, etc...

It definitely would be beneficial if it were on CPAN. However they would need to add tests to the repo first :)

> Linode CLI is a simple command-line interface to the Linode platform.

https://github.com/linode/cli

Linode's shortest billing cycle is one month. If I use the CLI to create a linode and do something computation then delete it, am I still billed for a full month?

Linode charges monthly, but they bill daily and credit an account when a linode is cancelled. If you create a 1GB linode on February 1st they will charge you $20, if you then destroy that linode on February 10th they will credit your account with the remaining full days (17) working out at ~$12 account credit.

Also worth noting that if you deploy a linode near the end of a month they will count up the next month and bill all at once, for example if you purchased a linode on the 25th of February they would charge you for the remainder of February and March at once.

Yes, but it's kind of silly that they charge you upfront for the entire month when you might only need something for a couple of hours.

Their whole pricing needs a per-hour option, but I guess they are doing well enough off people who use their etnrei virtual machines 24x7.

You are aware that most payment processors have a per charge fee? As someone who's also into creating a PaaS I can completely understand why they charge the way they charge, I'd even say it's one of the fairest schemes in the industry. For what you want to do I suggest AWS.

This is one thing I really like about DigitalOcean... I can spin up a machine, perform some tasks, destroy it, all for a buck or two...

Except they return it as account credit not as actual money because Linode doesn't want to fall into the high risk category of payment processing because they refund a lot. If they just did hourly, or even daily, billing I would use them. But I don't want to spent $20 for what ends up being ¢75 of usage and then being forced to either use or lose the other $19.25

In the past I've done what you've described and then asked for a refund to my credit card. Within minutes they processed the refund. Can't fault them for that.

Yes I can. Their default is to over-charge and then not automatically give me my money back.

See my response to alex_sf.

Linode could handle that the same way other providers do: bill per-hour, charge per-month.

I love Linode's performance and stability, but not having per hour billing is an absolute dealbreaker.

And it's a shame, because even if they kept the prices the same, they destroy AWS on a price:performance basis.

This basically ignores my first point: Per charge transaction fees. As a small(ish) company with not much leverage for big contracts with payment processors, you'll want to have a certain minimum amount you charge to people. With your scheme, they'll still have lots of small charges. Then they have to include those charge fees, which in turn makes people complain again.

Bottom line: It's a conscious business decision to not serve customers for whom it's a problem to once pay 20 bucks or so and then draw from that credit.

Edit: Thinking about it, not even Skype works any different. Why should an IaaS?

Looks like it's your lucky day :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7145756

With other providers you either:

a) Pay at the end of the month (good if you are a big company like Amazon) b) Don't let users run machines without credit in their account (DigitalOcean).

Could you explain to me what's the difference between Linode and DigitalOcean in that regard?

The way I use DigitalOcean is to prepay a certain amount (say $100), then use that to pay for my servers when I need them.

If I did similar on Linode it would take the entirety of the month or prorated.

If you need something for a couple of hours use a provider who supports that charge granularity. What is silly is criticising a firm for not doing something which they do not claim to do. I could just as justifiably call them silly for not selling ice cream.

Why can't they just give SSH access into a chroot'd environment, or something like that? I hate having to add more stuff to address needs which are already met by commonly used software. (SSH client)

I guess that's why I use VPS instead of Linode.

They used to offer a Linode console that is exactly what you describe. Not sure if they still do, I've moved on to other services.

Because one little mistake -- one error in their configuration, one sysadmin cockup at some point in the future, one bug in the software stack they use to provide such a thing -- and someone could get frightening amounts of access to the Linode network.

I like this a lot better.

The Linode CLI is to manage the VPS node, not to manage your server directly. With Linode CLI you can resize, shutdown, boot up, hard reset, and mirror your VPS. It's basically all the controls you would have from your VPS control panel, but in a CLI.

Unless i'm missing something, Linode is a VPS. They give you full SSH access to a VPS just like every other VPS provider does. This tool is just so you don't have to use the web UI to provision a new VPS Linode Server and can instead use the command line

Linode... something that should of died long ago after the first security breach.

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