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Do you honestly think that carrying a weapon in the san francisco bay area is a good idea?

I can come up with lots of reasons for why carrying a concealed weapon is more likely to be harmful than beneficial in these circumstances.

But why is it a bad idea to carry a weapon in SF? Are people stopped and frisked? Are there metal detectors everywhere? Are there pickpockets all over the place that will steal your weapon and use it against you?

It is extremely difficult to legally buy and conceal a handgun that conforms to California law. You also can't pickpocket a gun to anyone carrying it appropriately.

Try to take a gun from a cop and see what happens.

Weapon retention is an extremely stressed training point for most law enforcement agencies (even over effective shooting in many places). That's because many LEO shootings involve their service weapons that have been taken (I've seen estimates in the 8-12% range).

This is in a population that is trained in weapon retention. I've rarely met non-LEO folks who spend adequate time on the skill.

If I am getting threatened by random loonies yes - just as if I had worked for one of my previous employers in NI I would have been very careful about who I talked to and which places I went.

one of my mates is married to a DA in the USA and has had to "cheek his guns just in case some one tried to make the threat good.

Don't assume that all us Brits are fluffy little things who will have a fit of palpitations when fire arms are mentioned

Yes. But clearly you have an opposing view on the right to defend yourself with a firearm. No need to make this into a gun debate.

And yet you do exactly that.

As far as I can tell, it's a necessary consequence of any mention of firearms on HN, in any context. There seems little point in blaming any one participant, in any one instance, for the perennial argument over what is perhaps the most immediately, or at least the most reliably, polarizing issue ever raised on HN.

Fireamrs is only one hot-button topic for HN.

Others include Isreal / Palestine; sexism; RMS; etc. it is trivially easy to troll HN. HN does not do well at ignoring trolls or not responding to overly-enthusiastic posters. (There are some exceptions to this where a person will carefully talk through differences in opinion to try to understand or communicate a point of view but these are exceptions).

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