Here's one.
Edit: Hell, it's not even a joke anymore that cops routinely kill the physically and mentally ill. http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/justice/north-carolina-teen-ki...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas
http://raniakhalek.com/2013/10/08/georgia-police-kill-diabet...
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/sick-elderly-black-ma...
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019235236_duffy23m.h...
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-killed-ha...
http://gothamist.com/2008/09/25/after_cop_tasers_him_naked_m...
and even things like http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/mentally-ill-man-froz...
If this isn't something that routinely happens, then it is not a significant danger to the life or liberty of the average citizen to request counsel while being interrogated.
Basically I was just asking for you to say what you just did.
If someone makes an argument that asking for legal counsel has a reasonable chance of leading to being killed or imprisoned for life, I would expect them to backup that assertion with some evidence upon request.
Stories about people being killed by police in other contexts don't provide any evidence to support the initial assertion.
They said "for less" in their statement and you acknowledge that it happens, so it doesn't attack their argument to ask for that, it just attacks how they worded it.
"citation needed" is just about the most useless thing to contribute to a discussion and based on the other comment I'm not the only one that feels this way. This isn't reddit.
I though the same thing, until I actually needed the citation myself on a topic I cared about: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7043314
So at least "citation needed" is legitimate sometimes. (I totally agree that most of the time, it seems merely argumentative, not knowledge-seeking which is what is the good thing its being concealed behind).
Oh, new term : "Cite Troll" Which Im defining as someone who doesnt like something written, so knee jerks in to demaing citations.
But yeah. http://www.alternet.org/16-year-old-jailed-rikers-3-years-wi...
And one case most of us are familiar with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Brown
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/01/25/10233835-man-spen...