Nissan Sells 100,000 LEAFs, Captures 48% Of Worldwide Electric Vehicle Market
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2010: 19 (lol, is that right?)
2011: 10,064
2012: 52,835
2013: 96,702Yes, because despite all of our pre-ordered Leafs supposed to be showing up in December of '10, they were late (granted, they had a tsunami, but that wasn't the only reason). And as far as I know, Nissan was the only one shipping battery cars.
http://www.teslamotors.com/about/press/releases/tesla-motors...
Tesla celebrates 1000th roadster: Jan 12, 2010
http://www.teslamotors.com/about/press/releases/tesla-celebr...
Full Year 2010 Results "Tesla delivered its 1,500th Roadster during the [4th] quarter."
http://www.teslamotors.com/about/press/releases/tesla-motors...
Still, I actually test drove a Leaf a while back, nifty car, and I applaud Nissan for doing what they are doing. Amongst the snooze fest that is the Japanese auto industry these days, Nissan definitely has some of the most interesting line ups, from affordable, super car performance (GT-R) to pure electric city commuter (Leaf).
I would say that when cars like the Leaf, the sub 100 mile range club, get under twenty thousand after the government rebate then sales should really take off. I have no problem subsidizing the purchase of a reasonably priced electric like the Leaf or even as a stretch the i3 but once you pass into luxury pricing those people don't need the payout from the public
People buying the Leaf are buying a new car that only does one thing better than new vehicles $15,000-20,000 cheaper.
Also, it seems every second car in the HOV lane in the SF bay area it's a Leaf...
Plus, if you don't have a passenger seat, the bike's at full occupancy, which ought to be at least near high occupancy!
[1] http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freewaymgmt/faq.htm#faq15
Edit: managed to get the highway wrong. Whoops.
(As a side note, kind of defeats the purpose of the HOV lane to me, but maybe the "if it sells more electric cars..." excuse offsets it enough.)
Since electric cars serve many / most of the same purposes, it makes sense to append them to a reward system which has already proven effective at driving adoption and retention of preferred behaviors.
One solution is to allow a capped number in, to incentivize purchase but only up to a threshold that doesn't overly degrade HOV trip times. I believe that's what California did for hybrids, allowing HOV usage for the first N purchased.
My guess is that in a couple years we will see 24 hour carpool lanes in NorCal.
If I run low on gas I can pull into any service station and get my entire 336 mile range back in 2 minutes. I would need hours to charge an electric car and the only place I could do that is at my house.
If I wanted to go down the shore for a day (60 miles each way) the Leaf would get me there, but then I'd only have 15 miles of range left and no place to charge, effectively stranding me.
tesla is doing it right, the fiat500e is beautiful - why is it so hard to understand that design matters? the new BMW i3 is not exactly beautiful as well.
Maybe Nissan did understand that, which is how we ended up with the Leaf. You spend $32K on a car that's saving polar bears, you want the world to know it. How am I supposed to feel smug if I'm driving something that looks like a Nissan Versa?
Contrast that to the Tesla Model S, which IMO is kind of bland (though I'd still buy one if we didn't have the Leaf). A buddy of mine recently said he hadn't seen a Tesla. In Redmond, WA? I guarantee that he saw at least one or two on his way to work at Microsoft that morning. But if one isn't in to cars much, a Model S isn't really going to stand out.
In fact I saw more Ferraris than Tesla Model S. Without a doubt the Leaf is more noticeable and more popular.
I'm looking at you too, Prius.
Wait what, I always thought the Nissan Leaf looked like an uglier Nissan Versa? Wikipedia says the prototype version was a Versa.
Personally, I've been confusing newer Volvos for Teslas a lot recently (both have the brand name written out in 5 letters across the back). The Tesla Model S looks reasonably nice, but like you said, it doesn't really stand out if you don't know what you're looking for. Personally I prefer that, if I were to buy an electric car I'd rather it look closer to normal.
People who buy alternative vehicles seem to cue in to "different" designs though. I always think of the 90's Prius vs. the 2000's Prius. The first Prius looked like an ordinary car; footnote in history. Most people don't even know it existed. The second looks distinct and a little weird; smash hit.
EVs on the other hand you, see them, you recognize something that ugly could only be an EV.
Besides the fuel economy that will hopefully pay for that investment over time.
Cars that shout "I'm saving polar bears!" may be needed to get enough early adopters but then hopefully the technology has enough benefits on its own that it becomes just another feature that people value for its own sake.
On the bright side it doesn't catch on fire. </snark> Keeping aside the snark, it doesn't look that bad. The low price tag and the comparable look of Prius makes up for it. I think Nissan and Telsa are competing on different demograph within the same market. Nissan is going after people who think of cars as a utility and are looking to save some $$ on their daily gas expenditure. While Tesla is going after the people who prefer luxury, style and trend.
I've been wanting a car with the "futurist concept car look" for years, but they seemingly never progress to mass production. It's good to see that that's finally happening.
500 km (310 mi) in Comfort mode
600 km (370 mi) in Eco Pro mode
Electric range 35 km (22 mi)
The I3 more like the GM Volt (electric w/ generator).
I know that after a tipping point adoption just starts snowballing, but that point still looks 10-12 years away (a market share of electric car sales at 10% or better).
The American market, as always, is difficult to move.
I had a Nissan Pathfinder once and it was okay when gas was $2-2.50/gal (16 gallon tank, $40/wk, $150/month). Once it got to $4.00/gal damn right I found alternatives to driving that Pathfinder. The 20 minute walk to the store in the hot, Florida sun didn't seem so bad anymore.
I have many friends who bought SUVs (for the "utility") and commuted way out from the exurbs. They had no choice but to eat the cost of $100 fillups while looking for cheaper alternatives.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/05/news/economy/gas_prices_inco...
Also, the federal isn't a credit, it's a discount off of msrp. The state is a deduction, so you typically have to carry it a few years to see the full benefit. Just in case anyone is curious.
To clarify, there _is_ a $7500 federal tax credit, but Nissan just takes it themselves and passes those savings directly to the customer, which is what makes it possible to indirectly use the credit when leasing instead of purchasing.
The Georgia $5000 tax credit is indeed a credit, not a deduction, but it's a _non-refundable_ credit, meaning if you owe less than $5000 in taxes, you can only take a credit for that lesser amount the first year (so you're taxes are $0 instead of negative), but you get up to five years to take the full amount of the credit (in the case of this particular credit).
The Georgia credit applies in full even if you lease instead of purchase. I doubt that's what the legislature intended, but it's the case nevertheless.
Visiting my parents in Lakeland, FL for a week? I saw one parked in a guy's garage in their neighborhood, that's it. I'll see a half dozen Leaf's just on an eight mile drive to work on any given day. So it seems it could be geographically specific.
Nissan LEAF launched in the United States in December 2010. The United States accounts for nearly half of the sales worldwide. The pace of LEAF sales has continued to accelerate. In 2013, Nissan sold 22,610 of the electric vehicles in the United States, more than twice as many as in 2012 and more than 2012 and 2011 Leaf sales combined.
Nissan LEAF traditionally has performed well on the West Coast with notable markets such as San Francisco, Los Angeles and Seattle, but now interest has expanded across the country. New hot markets have emerged such as Atlanta, which has been the No. 1 LEAF market for the past five months.
EDIT: Note that many Americans can only afford one car at a time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf#Battery
8 years happens to be the length of the warranty on 2011/2012 Leaf batteries. Either way, combined with the optional $100/mo protection plan that gives you a new battery if yours ever loses 30% capacity, I doubt any Leaf buyers will be on the market before 2021 for any reason other than wanting a new car.
As a result, many (if not most) SoCal and Arizona owners have experienced quite significant battery degradation [0]. That translates into reduced range. Almost every other manufacturer includes some sort of battery thermal management system. That is why, for example, Tesla Roadster batteries average about 85% of initial capacity after 100,000 miles in real-world use[1].
[0] http://www.autoevolution.com/news/arizona-nissan-leaf-batter... [1] http://www.plugincars.com/tesla-roadster-battery-life-study-...
There is no such thing as decreasing gas prices.
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