Ingredients of an All-Natural Banana
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How can you even make a statement like this? A lab-produced banana definitely won't be healthier? What does "healthy" even mean in this statment?
Probably not so bad these days, since there have been steps taken to reduce the amount of nitrosamine in all sorts of foodstuffs. There's a good overview at http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/f-w00/nitrosamine.html
Given most of the information there, it's possibly a good reason to avoid the hippie celery juice bacon (though I've never seen it in the stores), mainly because you don't know how much nitrate you're getting. But it's a little more complex than "Lol, hippies."
Brazil nuts are also naturally radioactive, as are a few other foods.
My part time project has been to try and provide some simple to understand descriptions of the "scary" chemicals at http://foodconstrued.com
I was having this debate with someone and we had a look at the ingredients. My opponent pointed triumphantly at "rehydrated corn starch" (i.e. flour and water). "See, it's processed!", she said.
I wish we could get away from the idea that Stainless Steel Bad, Wood and Leather Good. I suspect a lot of people would be horrified to see the shiny metallic interior of that temple of Natural Goodness the Innocent Smoothie factory!
ps: "out of laziness" - not because there's anything wrong with Quorn as a source of nutrients; it's just a pretty boring way to cook and eat!
Low-fat, high protein - and it's mushrooms! (I like mushrooms...haha).
I might see if it's available here in Australia - how do you find the taste? And do you use it as a major component in your diet?
One form it comes in is frozen "mince". That would probably be the best way for a non-veggie to eat it. You can use it as a replacement for beef in pies/chili con carne/bolognese etc. The lack of fat probably makes it slightly less satisfying but I'd say it's worth it for the health benefits. The actual flavour doesn't suffer at all.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid%E2%80%93liquid_extracti...
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_chromatography%E2%80%93mas...
When I clicked on that link and searched for "banana" and then clicked on "banana, raw", I was hoping to see a list of the scary-looking names I saw on the blog post that started this thread. I only see things I recognize.
I think what would be cool/interesting (and I'm guessing what cing meant to say) would be if there were a way to get that list (the scary-looking one, not the vitamins and minerals one) from some procedure done to a vegetable.
In that sense, the link you provided does not have the same information that the author of the blog post is (apparently) compiling by hand.
It is currently not possible:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolomics#Metabolome
Found some papers on Google that try to find fractions of the metabolome -- in this one, the tomato:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1533921/
The identification of compounds, in particular secondary
metabolites, through a metabolomic profiling approach
encounters some major difficulties. First, the number of
commercially available standards of secondary metabolites
reported to be present in a specific plant species or
tissue is low. Second, in an automated online separation,
PDA detection, MS measurement, and/or MS/MS fragmentation
of mass signals, it is difficult to meet optimized levels
for all eluting compounds. Due to overlapping compounds,
low intensity mass signals, or difficulties in the
isolation of the mass signal for MS/MS fragmentation,
the extraction of usable information for identification
purposes can be complicated. Third, the lack of dedicated
software and databases that integrate spectroscopic and
MS data limits the identification procedure to a manual
level. Nevertheless, by these means 43 metabolites could be
readily assigned in the tomato fruit extract (Tables III
and IV), leaving more to be identified. The total number
of compounds detectable by our LC-MS system is difficult
to calculate due to the presence of mass signals from
isotopes, adducts, and unintended in-source fragmentation.Here's what natural bananas look like:
http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/dc/2e/artificial_select...
What you buy in the store is genetically modified (through selection mainly).
Also, once you have a sterile hybrid, there's not much in the way of selection pressure. And since bananas are clones, there's nothing for the selection pressure to act on.
http://www.backyardbananas.com.au/faq.html
http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/plants/fruit-and-vegetables/fruit...
And for very good reason: every banana of a variety is susceptible to (eg.) a virus outbreak - there won't be any pockets of genetic variability like you would get with potatoes or citrus. If anything that affects bananas becomes widespread - no more bananas.
Bacteria reproduce in all sorts of bizarre ways, including swapping DNA from other bacteria, editing their DNA, etc., so it's not really related.
I guess if you had simply said that there's virtually no selection pressure, you wouldn't have triggered my nitpick reaction. :)
It's, by definition, artificial selection.
With your "logic" everything is natural.
BUT, putting selective pressure on a plant to be more delicious and/or possibly nutritious is as natural with humans as it is with much of the animal kingdom. The edible fruit has an evolutionary incentive to taste better, and therefore produce more offspring.
Trying to assign a good or bad grade to this is exactly the naturalistic fallacy.
Which, for reasons that should be obvious, makes it problematic as a word for promoting certain types of food. Since humans are components of the ecosystem, twinkies are technically "natural", right?
Twinkies are made from the same atoms as everything else. A glucose molecule assembled by a hypothetical atom arranger is indistinguishable from one synthesized in an organism. Twinkies are ultimately derived from nature, just as humans are ultimately derived from nature. Twinkies are a result of the congruence of multiple ideas that have evolved by natural selection. Among others, the ideas of refining and processing the chemical products of plants and animals, and how to make a twinkie-like baked good. Twinkies did not spontaneously appear in a vacuum.
Regardless of the words we use, the core idea of what we term "artificial selection" is a subset of the core idea of what we term "natural selection".
Let's address THAT definition of "Natural" without getting sidetracked by irrelevancies.
Probably because organic has a totally different meaning WRT chemistry.
"natural" is very much like the discredited theory of vitalism. Impossible to define such that you exclude twinkies and premade jars of frosting while still including the produce department.
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_foods
>>“Natural foods” and “all natural foods” are widely used terms in food labeling and marketing with a variety of definitions, most of which are vague. The term is assumed to imply foods that are minimally processed and do not contain manufactured ingredients, but the lack of standards in most jurisdictions means that the term assures nothing.
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_certification
>>In the United States, federal legislation defines three levels of organic foods.[8] Products made entirely with certified organic ingredients and methods can be labeled "100% organic," while only products with at least 95% organic ingredients may be labeled "organic." Both of these categories may also display the USDA Organic seal. A third category, containing a minimum of 70% organic ingredients, can be labeled "made with organic ingredients," but may not display the USDA Organic seal. In addition, products may also display the logo of the certification body that approved them.
3. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/naked-juices-natura...