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The very next post on this blog is all about ... drum roll ... a custom framework that the moot team built, after deciding to not use any frameworks.

https://moot.it/blog/technology/riotjs-the-1kb-mvp-framework...

Sadly, this behavior is very common among those who have a hard time adopting existing libraries/frameworks. In the end, they almost always re-invent their own obscure wheel that does the same job.

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I think it's important to distinguish frameworks from libraries. With libraries, your code is the caller; you can compose things as you like, including with your own code for cases not covered by the library. But with frameworks, your code tends to be the callee; you must conform to (and are thus limited by) the assumptions the calling code has baked-in by the framework authors. My sense is that the pain from this inverted directionality is what drives these bespoke frameworks.

The irony doesn't escape me, but for what it's worth, here is a previous HN discussion about their framework you mentioned:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6653024

A complaint I remember was that "there isn't much to see here except jQuery"

Of course. Not using any framework (external or built in-house) would mean that the team didn't find any useful abstractions that could be layered on the raw JavaScript. Very unlikely.

Obligatory XKCD http://xkcd.com/927/

Boooooo.

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