'This is what an IED looks like. I took this photo near Kandahar.'
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People pretty much universally agreed (and continue to agree) that going there was a good idea.
edit: I don't mean to sound rah rah about war, it sucks that we're there and it sucks that we will be for a while. All I'm saying is it wasn't unjustified and there's no reason to sit back with the benefit of hindsight and say "We never should have gone in in the first place." Time is better spent figuring out how to fix the problem and get out. Any suggestions there?
I don't. Most of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan, and the links between Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and OBL were tenuous at best and hugely overblown. As far as I can tell, our invasion seems to have affected an enormous increase in world opium production more than anything else. I don't know whom that benefits, but it sure isn't what I pay my taxes for.
She is my representative :-)
And people continue to universally agree that going in there was a good idea? I mean, really? I grant you that nearly everyone was for it in the weeks after 9-11. Even I said something to that effect. But, hey, I was 19 and naive. Were the same thing to happen again tomorrow, I would not be so quick to judge, for what seemed liked a good idea at the time looks a lot more questionable 8 years later. Bin Laden is free, Afghanistan's cost to us in terms of lives and treasure grows by the week, the Taliban still rule large parts of the country, and Al Qaeda is not crippled.
I am not asserting that the invasion was unjustified, but you have got to admit that it's highly debatable whether the benefits outweigh the costs in this, the eighth year of the war.
But how can we know the costs of not going? It's really hard to nail it down to any particular influence, but there hasn't been a domestic attack since 9/11, and it'd be foolish to say that the war in Afghanistan hasn't played a role.
Regardless, it was a hard choice, and easy to second guess. But that doesn't mean it's time to sit back and say "Yep, never should have went there in the first place." The better thing to wonder is "Where from here?"
A role in what? Attacks on the US? That seems far from obvious. One thing that it certainly played a role in is opium production, which the Taliban prohibited. It certainly played a huge role (to the tune of billions of dollars), and big power shifts in the international drug trade...
Where did this start?
There was a great deal of opposition to a full-fledged invasion, just not on mainstream television networks. I personally remember reading about a lot of more peaceful alternatives that ranged from not actually invading, to targeting Osama directly, to accepting offers by the Taliban to hand Bin Laden over to an international tribunal or neutral third-party country.
God knows how serious the last offer would have been (perhaps it was a stalling tactic), but it would have been easier to find the man that way - assuming locating Bin Laden was the actual point behind the invasion. Regardless of how things play out now, claiming there were not alternatives to invasion only excuses the poor judgment of those who backed the war in the first place. These people need to be kept as far from government as humanly possible, not excused for the "inevitability" of the Michael Bay approach to foreign policy.
The papers authorising war in Afghanistan were on the President's desk on the 10th September 2001, waiting to be signed. This is completely documented and in the public domain.
The war had nothing to do with 9/11. It was completely pre-planned. The Taliban were promised a "carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs" if they didn't cooperate with the pipeline project. They didn't cooperate.
I could say a lot more -- especially about 9/11 -- but this isn't the site for it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4587368/
Some people just wont open their eyes. It hurts too much.
If we hadn't invaded Afghanistan, perhaps we'd have more money and fewer dead now. But I'd bet anything we'd be far worse off down the line.
If the Soviet Union hadn't invaded Afghanistan, they might have survived another decade+!
If the Victorian British Empire hadn't invaded Afghanistan... not sure
If the Arabs hadn't invaded Afghanistan, it might still be Zoroastrian!
If the Persians hadn't invaded Afghanistan, it might still be Bhuddist!
If Alexander the Great hadn't invaded Afghanistan, he might have lived to twice his age, and done who knows what!
We already completely dropped the ball on Afghanistan once and it wouldn't surprise me if we do it again, but if a country is being used to train an army of extremists bent on the destruction of the free world... well, somebody should probably look into stopping that. And I don't think saying "please" works on those people.
Then again, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe if we never invaded Afghanistan and overthrew the Taliban-controlled government, everything would be peaches right now. I certainly wouldn't have wasted a year of my life in the shit hole. But that seems like the riskier road to take, given what I've learned on the topic.
Would blow up all the hidden IEDs and all the IEDs that are being worked on. Would clear out a lot of the area, and might blow up a number of terrorists in the process.
It is not appropriate to interfere with such a crucial piece of infrastructure. In developing countries especially, cell phones are the only link many people have. They run their small businesses, allow people to call family to see if they have been hurt, etc.
Would you tolerate something like this in your Country? Shut down the internet for a little while to prevent a terrorist threat?
They are being issued with these sorts of scenarios specifically in mind. If the police think there's a bomb somewhere, set to be triggered via cell phone, damn right I'd want them to block the cell phones in the local area to keep it from going off.
The problem with cell jamming technology isn't when it's being used to stop bombs from going off, the risk is that it'll be used for more trivial purposes.
According to the article, the military is already jamming cell signals along caravan routes, but one has to wonder if it's even noticeable to the locals, given that cell phones are inherently unreliable, especially in mountainous regions. Cell phone jammers are in regular use in other countries, purely for the convenience of their owners: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_jammer
These people are all at about the same level of tech as the satellite code crackers a couple of years ago, and it isn't rare to see top of the line scopes, all kinds of specialized soldering equipment (including vacuum smd soldering stations) and laptops full of software geared towards getting a cell phone to do something it really doesn't want to do.
This involves forced firmware upgrades, replacing chips on the board (usually eeproms or flashed chips with blank ones to be able to trick the firmware into thinking it is on a new, unused phone).
If any one of these guys gave a seminar for a week or so the 'bad guys' would be in the possession of all the knowledge and gear they would need to do just about anything they wanted, short of rewriting the phones OS completely. And they wouldn't need that because in their world simpler is better, and writing software is a complicated business.
It would be pretty stupid to only have one method of detonating a bomb now wouldn't it?
For every cell-phone detonator, there are hundreds of less sophisticated weapons. Simple mines, pressure switches, springs, tripwires, etc etc.
It is near impossible to defend against a booby trap. It's far more effective to ensure survivability. This of course has the unfortunate side effect of encouraging larger bombs.
Ergo: the reason troops moved in Humvees early in the conflict; now use RG-31's (or equivalent) or when available, helicopters.
You can also realize that the problem is already solved: US vehicles already have jamming equipment.
* Each jammer is different and caters to a specific type of detonator, or group of detonators.
* Effective ranges aren't large enough.
* Lack of proper training for soldiers means most have no idea if the jamming device is even working; many keep them off because they interfere with radios, etc.
* The lag time between new jammer tech and proper fielding is a year+ in many cases. I rarely road in a vehicle with the "latest and greatest".
Certainly more feasible that random flybys.
But yeah, good enough for the time being, until something more practical can be implemented. Sucks that not being perfect means people die, but you will never win a chess match if you try not to lose a single piece.
... and civilians. Hearts and minds anyone?
I can't see any keypad, and it has what looks like a very small display, stubby antenna, and PTT switch on the side. It looks very much like the cheap Chinese FRS or GPRS radios you see in some import stores here in the 'States.
Some of those radios can be set up with squelch codes (similar to PL tones or CTCSS) so that a receiver won't break squelch unless a transmitter set to the same code uses the channel. That would be a fairly reliable short-range detonation mechanism, and it would explain why the Coalition jammers work without setting them off.
At any rate, it sure doesn't look like a cell phone to me.
A very interesting read on IEDS here: http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/007046.html
After bombing and raping these people for years, let's now kill their ability to communicate by DOSing their cell network.
USA! USA! USA!
As was mentioned in another post, these explosive devices are improvised, so once our deployed forces come up with a solution to a problem, the terrorists are quick to try another method. They have infra-red triggers, trip wires, pressure plates, RF triggers, and possibly using other forms of wavelengths. Some wavelengths are particularly hard to jam because they interfere with our troops' own communication systems. Plus these jamming systems are expensive and high powered which is not easily scalable.
The Washington Post ran an excellent series in which they talked about the difficulty of this problem [1]. As for me, I'm doing my PhD research on trying to stop these acts of violence prematurely. So even though this technology isn't immediately deployable, we're looking at other types of sensing technologies that can "see" explosives devices from a stand-off distance, particularly > 50meters.
[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/specials/leftofbo...
You're right - there are a number of triggering methods in use, to include IR, GPRS/"family band" radio, and cell. More sophisticated devices use a combination, like cell arming and IR/pressure plate/trip cord detonation. Simple command-wire detonation begat command-wire with a stand-off cell phone arming unit. This was so we couldn't follow wires to the bomber. For a time fake command wires were set up and boobytrapped. When we stopped following wires, they'd do it again. Or use something really simple like a washing machine timer for a regularly scheduled convoy.
In Afghanistan (at least 5 years ago), "long range cordless" was a popular option in remote areas without cell grids. These are Chinese-made cordless phones operating in the 20-40mhz frequencies with ranges of 10 miles or more. These are also popular in areas of Iraq without cell infrastructure.
It is a cat and mouse game of trigger mechanisms versus detection/deterrent. New detonation methods would show up all the time, with various techniques being popular in different regions at any given time (in both Iraq and Afghanistan). New methods are analyzed, equipment is designed to counter, companies bid on devices, and the countermeasures are pushed into the warzone as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, in my experience, these devices are always behind the curve.
It wouldn't be a good idea for me to go into detail about what these detection and deterrence methods do specifically. Sufficed to say I browsed this article's responses and didn't run into any suggestions or techniques that I hadn't personally used or seen implemented.
There's a wide variety of communications equipment insurgents have access to, because there aren't Iraqi or Afghan equivalents of the FCC. There is access to consumer radios and devices of all frequencies and outputs in these countries. The entire spectrum is game. I don't think there's a magic deterrent or detection method here.
Our best bet was always to schedule movements and map routes as erratically and randomly as possible. If we could, we would mix vehicle movements with foot and air movement. Keeping a good relationship with locals and randomizing movement as much as possible proved much more valuable than using the hottest new gizmo. Pulling over and buying a soda from a street vendor and chatting with the local police generally yielded better information about the road ahead than sitting sealed in an armored vehicle staring at computer displays.
As for the rest of the hacker community, I can see no better example of the importance of the "release-early-release-often" motto. It's frustrating for me as a scientist sometimes working on technology that has years of development time, when people's lives are immediately at stake.
I sincerely hope the military is getting more of a hacker-mindset.
Canadian troops go on missions alone too, and I assume the same is true of the other NATO members.
What if they wire it to detonate on a jam? I hope the army has taken this into account (seems obvious that they would have.)
This is almost tailor made to set stuff off by remote. Beta test using the ringer, when it's all good make it hot by switching your profile to 'silent'.
The favored method of IED detonation was just to have the attach a small spool of thread to the motor and have it pull a thread to activate something. Not sure what the favored method is now.
"This is cingular, your credit is 0, terminating call"
All just guesses of course.
Cleary a dedicated radio detonator could be programmed to work like this, but then we are talking improvised here.
Not all IDE's are designed the same way. Hence the "I".
The easiest one would just be 3-4 AT mines linked together. This one looks to be anti-personnel/light vehicle, as fuel/air won't really defeat most armour.
And very few shots are fired during an IED strike unless there is the accompanying ambush (That does happen occasionally) inbound. Even Marines don't shoot randomly at things.
SOP on an IDE strike is to secure the area and evac the wounded. That won't involve shooting unless there is reason too.
All you have to do is sit there and relax.
This isn't the kind of problem that you can solve with technology - sure, you can make it more difficult, but the people who make these things do nothing else during a day but make IEDs; they'll find a new way to blow things up. Nothing encourages people to tinker with electronics like the perception that their country is being invaded and that they can fight back with bombs.
So take control of their cell system (which, by the way, will do wonders for the perception that the US doesn't run the country) if you want, but don't expect that to change much. The way to beat IEDs is to make it so they don't want to set IEDs, or at least so that you've got enough people who don't want them set that they can report when others are.
I'd also be worried if using a jammer, if the device was programmed to detonate itself, after prolonged lack of contact with a cell tower.