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I don't consider getting access to a website via the most insecure blogging platform on the internet "hacking".

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Not sure why you say that. WordPress.com offers 2-Factor Auth:

http://en.support.wordpress.com/security/two-step-authentica...

There are also tons of available security plugins & pretty extensive documentation on hardening a self-hosted install:

http://wordpress.org/plugins/tags/security http://codex.wordpress.org/Hardening_WordPress

Still, a lot of what's on that page and a lot of the common features of plugins like Wordfence (which I use) should be part of the core, I think.

Though also in my opinion even having a web-based file editor is pretty terrible...

Hardening Wordpress. That made me speechless…………

But hey, what do I know? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Only the tip of the iceberg. Some men believe.

https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=wordpress

How much of what's on that list actually applies to a recent version of Wordpress?

>> to a recent version of Wordpress

Saying recent here isn't logical, because after patching the incident, it's not an incident anymore. But I guess you mean how secure you are with a recent version of Wordpress. I think this is though question, because Wordpress relies to a high degree on external components and plugins. There is probably no single pure Wordpress Blog, because the original Wordpress archive already relies heavily on external dependencies. That's where many of the issues were found as correctly pointed out by wyck. However this reliance on external code, without a Wordpress team or at least a software that is evaluating the code-quality or any other metric, you can't be secure. Yeah we can argue with: "But Wordpress is n-times more popular than X." However it still makes WP very vulnerable to attacks. I've cleaned and recovered some hacked commercial wp blogs and shops myself (not installed by me, but the previous dev). So whatever you believe in WP may be, just get over it. There are so many other opensource alternatives that wait for you to be tried out.

Show me an alternative that I can sell to a non-technically minded client with a small business who just wants to blog and put up a youtube feed and do e-commerce and maybe SEO. And oh, they can't ever even know what a terminal is, much less git.

Why should the client know git or anything else if you are the one who has to setup the blog for him/her? Or are you working with clients only who know html, css, ftp etc so they can do the work themself just being lazy and paying you instead?

I think they don't want to be intimidated by complexity and don't want to have to pay someone more to deal with it for them in the future. Typically they want to be able to administrate the site themselves, and they can do that through web forms easily enough.

What you describe can easily be solved with Google Fusion Tables and a tiny script in your favorite server-side language.

You're right - I think the problem is mostly one of marketing the alternatives.

Try http://getkirby.com or http://concrete5.org or http://silverstripe.org there are many many other CMS or Blogging platforms too. For just Blogging as the main thing, you're perfectly set with https://ghost.org/

Without exaggerating, I've downloaded almost any CMS on Github and Bitbucket and Sourceforge and I'm almost done with testing all of them. I think about 15 remain. With all honesty, I cannot say that I'm impressed with any CMS so far. There is just one thing that stood out, with it's concept, but it's still only Alpha grade quality, that's: http://parsimony.mobi/

I've you're curious what I ended up with, just ping me and I'll share my results, after I've really compared all CMS with each other. Currently I would say that there are about ~10 good quality CMS, with hundreds of miserably coded ones. That is a good benchmark, for how good developers are in the real world, I mean there is only so much space at the top of the iceberg. Not everybody can excel with every project they start (well, except people like Fabrice Bellard)

I've not compared Typo3, Alfresco and other Enterprise CMS, because even when they come with all features loaded, they suck at code complexity and user friendliness

You can't tell me that Wordpress is the only blogging platform that fits to all of your requirements, because there are thousands of CMS out there and you'll spend weeks testing all of them.

I'm not actually a Wordpress fanboy by any means (though it does pay the bills) - for my own personal use i'm setting my site up in Slim Framework. Professionally, though, i've found that if someone wants to blog or do "e-commerce", talking them out of Wordpress (and into something they're still willing to pay for) is a difficult thing to do.

Not much because those are plugins and not WordPress, there are over 27k of them on .org and probably another 5-10k hosted on other sites.

Having 2-Factor auth is meaningless if you can bypass the auth itself.

[citation needed]

WordPress isn't that insecure. A lot of third-party (i.e. written by inexperienced developers) plugins for it are, though.

I doubt the purported "insecurity" of Wordpress has anything to do with this. Given that they simultaneously defaced a multitude of social media outlets for Skype, it seems fairly likely that they phished or compromised someone who managed social media accounts.

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