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To other HNers. I'm looking to move to a different country for good. I'm thinking Germany. It's beautiful. Music, art, amazing women, startups, history, Europe.

Where should I go? I have all the money in the world and I'm looking to settle elsewhere besides North America.

Suggestions?

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Germany is a good destination in Europe because it's fairly inexpensive (unification ftw). Very few startups outside of a small area of Berlin, however.

Just commenting about Germany because you mentioned it. There are probably lots of other destinations with good potential. Ultimately they are all only as good as you make it.

As an European I can't say how well it compares to the US but The Netherlands (Amsterdam in particular) are an amazing place to move to.

I've left Italy a few months ago and moved to Amsterdam (studying and working), it's an amazing place, a massive change of settings for me. There are lots of startups, companies and opportunities for tech-minded people. Obviously, I repeat, my comparison is with Italy which, to be honest, is one of the worst places you'd want to found a startup in Europe.

Along those lines, check out this link: http://appsterdam.rs . I've heard Mike Lee give a pitch on why geeks should move to Amsterdam, and it sounded pretty awesome.

Amsterdam and environs is an exceptionally good location for internet startups due to the massive cheap bandwidth available there (datacenters are expensive though).

+1 for Amsterdam. Ask for the Crux.

France is not that good too

First, go to hell for your comment about amazing women. It is nonsense.

Then, I advice you to not go to Paris. I've just left it for south east Asia (Laos) and it's amazing. However I hadn't meet any tech community yet.

Problem with Europe is that things are not that well there. Don't go to France. Germany and Netherland seems good for the next years but who knows how things can change. China and Russia are also interesting choices.

These surveys might help you decide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercer_Quality_of_Living_Survey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_most_livable_cities

I personally would consider these cities (safe, strong tech community):

Berlin, Munich, Zurich, Vienna, Stockholm

You may find some help here http://www.reddit.com/r/iwantout

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