C# developer here, also love the language.
I completely agree and I only hope that this new thing will be just as good as C# but fully cross-platform. It would be great.
>mobile
Xamarin is pretty solid, although it costs a lot.
I completely agree and I only hope that this new thing will be just as good as C# but fully cross-platform. It would be great.
>mobile
Xamarin is pretty solid, although it costs a lot.
And that's despite my assumed bias, because I work at JetBrains.
What I mean by that is, when will it go 1.0? When will we see a major project from Jetbrains implemented in it?
Kotlin has been around for a couple of years now and Jetbrains still won't answer these questions as far as I can see[1].
* If you read the link, there is no guarantee of backwards compatibility to the current point within future releases. This is why they're still in milestones.
* Jetbrains has yet to show us that they are, themselves, committed to Kotlin by implementing something major in it.
* They won't provide a timeline for 1.0.
I love thinking about and toying with new languages, but when it comes to sitting down and doing stuff, I need to know the environment has enough commitment such that I don't have immediate code rot.
* no regex literals
* a little verbose(instead of [] for arrays, it's "Arrays")
* hashes IMO should be JSON
* why doesn't null evaluate to false? God I hate writing if (a != null). I'm much happier in javascript/ruby/groovy land where if can type "if (!a)" or "unless a" or even cooler "raise Exception("a should not be null") unless a"
* why did the world standardize on camelCase instead of snake_case ? the world was wrong about this!
basically a little more javascript and ruby influence would have been good. make the language more "fun" and expressive. There is no equiv of the ||= operator or | for joining arrays, etc
But the big things it's missing are more ecosystem features: * REPL
* an alternative build system (please don't make anyone use maven!) should be an interpreted scripting language. I'd look at Rake or Gradle for inspiration
* rails like web framework
It is a statically typed language designed to try to drag java programmers kicking and screaming into the 1970s. Virtually everything you listed would be a bad change. Just use a language that is actually similar to what you want.
btw being a jerk doesn't help your case.
lesson in civil discourse by example: "I don't think that a ||= operator is a good idea because XXX"
I had it building on FreeBSD back then!
They did the right thing for them but not the community. Isolation and ecosystem ate tightly controlled at Microsoft and always have been. It's how devdiv remain scarily profitable.