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Firefox OS, Chrome OS and now Ubuntu throwing their weight behind HTML. Nice!

Curiously, iOS have sort of taken the other path, beginning with only HTML apps and then drifted away somewhat.

Who needs portability when you run fast and have achieved critical mass? Firefox OS, Chrome OS, and Ubuntu are all linux with tiny market share. I don't see many benefits for Apple.

The benefits would be more developer-geared rather that beneficial for Apple.

Lord knows the only reason why I haven't jumped on the iOS gravy train is Objective-C.

It's actually kinda nice once you get used to it.

as long as you use that one IDE for it yes?

I use vim for writing code, and the IDE for a couple tasks like running the simulator.

You can use JetBrain's AppCode if you dislike (despise) Xcode :) It's written in Java, but at least it doesn't crash every couple of days (possibly corrupting(!) .xcodeproject files).

And the Modern ObjC (with ARC, @properties, blocks, new @literals, awesome and useful clang errors, etc.) is much, much better than it was around iPhone OS 3.0! The signal/noise ratio of a typical iOS app is now maybe twice that of an app written in the bad old days.

Objective-C gets a bad wrap.

Off-topic.

rap, not wrap. Quite an interesting history http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/05/its-bad-rap-...

I believe it's rep, not rap. Rep as a shorthand for reputation: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rep

It's not. There is also a phrase "bad rep", but it is distinct.

Even though it's probably not very popular, HTML + JS is also the preferred (only?) way of writing Metro apps for Windows.

Not only in any fashion (.NET and C++ are still supported) but yeah, they do have a very strong dev pipeline for HTML.

It certainly isn't the only way and I'm not sure it's the preferred way.

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