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Alan Turing pardoned [pdf]

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This document looks fantastically fake.

UK bills don't tend to use a fake cursive font, they don't tend to have common language like "Greetings!", there is no court at Sandringham that I have heard of, and the bill to pardon Mr Turing is not through its full process in the house of commons.

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/alanturingstatut...

"Greeting!", no less.

Actually I have a British Army commission and it does indeed start 'To Our Trusty and Well Beloved Christopher Graham Seaton Greeting!'

My understanding is that this is actually standard form for certain official documents in the UK. Example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_patent#Form_of_British_...

It certainly has a more distinct ring to it than "To whom it may concern:"

Apparently there's a difference between a Royal Pardon and a Statutory Pardon. Parliament would have been debating the latter; this is the former (which the government had previously ruled out), it seems.

Humm I take it back, looks like he was pardoned

This isn't a UK bill. This is a pardon in the form of letters patent coming from the Queen. The form, "To all whom these Presents come, Greetings!" is pretty common in letters patent. There may not be a normal court in Sandringham, but this isn't coming from a normal court. It's coming from the Royal Court, which takes on the name of wherever the Sovereign is in residence. In this, the Queen is staying at Sandringham, so that's where the Royal Court is.

This looks fake, it is scheduled for a second debate in the 2nd house (Parliament, the one that's democratically elected) in February 2014.

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/alanturingstatut...

You're right; I thought they had already done the second reading, but it was a reading in the House of Lords instead.

That said, the Parliament website is fantastic. The US sites are getting better, but the overall flow for public bills in the UK's site is so much nicer.

Edit: the original schedule looks like it was altered after MP Christopher Chope raised an objection.

It's on the front page of the Guardian. Not fake.

Better late than never, I suppose. Assuming this is a legit leak.

"graciously pleased to extend our grace and mercy".. what a bunch of garbage. I hope that is toned down for the actual pardon.

Isn't that a mis-print in the third line? There's an extraneous "it" in the text.

Not only does it come a bit late (if legit), it also soft-pedals the abuses against him.

This demeans the word 'apology'. It's bereft of meaning and viciously partisan to the extent that I find it disgusting in view of the many who've suffered and are now dead and unremembered. Pity energy wasn't better spent in further public explication of his significance and achievements.

Good thing he didn't chemically castrate anyone, they'd never pardon that.

I hope this is real - but can anyone prove this is legitimate?

The second reading of the bill in the House of Commons is not due until the 28th of February, so even if this is a draft it's not the real deal yet.

I have to say I feel uneasy about this whole thing, I'd be much happier if we pardoned everyone prosecuted under the same law.

Little late there, eh?

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