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> If you're going to talk about following the law, how about the fact that the bus is illegally parked in a public bus stop?

Well that's a perfectly OK thing to protest, but I'm not sure it's illegal though. Have you called the city and asked? I bet they have permission. Illegal means violating the law, are they violating the law or you just unhappy about the arrangement. I can see a valid argument being made about it not being a good thing, but I doubt it's illegal.

If it is illegal just call the police? What do they say?

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They don't have permission, and the cops haven't done anything. Again, that's the main point of the main protest. They don't have permission- again, something that's been brought up at the protests, and is on the signs themselves. Yes, they are actually violating the law.

Maybe you should like, educate yourself on the issues because picking a side? That way you can actually be informed, instead of spouting reactions that really don't make sense in the context.

So if they move their buses to a legal area for pickup, will you be satisfied? Or is that not the real issue here?

In SF they have permission yet people still protest. Some shuttle stops even have signs which look like they've been installed by the city, ie "No Parking/Shuttle Stop 6am-10am" on Van Ness

Yes it's illegal. The city has turned a blind eye to the problem, but now it's gotten too big, with buses stopping everywhere.

The city says there may be a trial next year with designated bus stops being used by these private buses for cash, but until then, the law is being flouted.

If you got a car or van and started transporting people across the city using the public bus stops, sooner or later, you would be fined and probably arrested too.

So affected cities have a few choices: fine every delivery vehicle and bus which parks 'illegally or illegally uses municipal bus stops. Modify code to allow stop sharing. Disallow non municipal buses from using municipal bus stops. Allow them to use side street. Or, if they mean to disallow private buses altogether, prepare for an increase in traffic and commute times.

Interestingly, I don't recall protesters protesting the delivery vehicles who constantly block traffic lanes all over SF. That gives me pause and think the protesters' 'narrative' is questionable.

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