As far as I know China is the only one being blamed for Industrial Espionage. NSA is snooping on citizens and interest groups.
Note: I am no way in favor of any snooping on any countries citizens foreign or domestic.
As far as I know China is the only one being blamed for Industrial Espionage. NSA is snooping on citizens and interest groups.
Note: I am no way in favor of any snooping on any countries citizens foreign or domestic.
The only use for that information would be setting bids. It's no small thing. Bids with insider information could cost Brasil tens of billions of dollars.
I dont see where it says they passed that info to American companies.
Please dont think I am downplaying this I am just trying to understand why.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/nsa-spying-braz...
I am trying to grasp at something that would justify it. Its beyond belief that they are actually doing this. Who's the good guys in this world or are the "people" the only good guys left?
In all the snowden leaks, there are documents to prove what they are saying; go to the guardian, or try to see if theres any attachment somewhere..
It would be very difficult to find something "in the cloud"; cause it would probably be under takedown (people could get into prison or even killed without notice just by porting some of those pen-drives or sd cards.. see David Miranda case in the UK for example)
The nefarious mix of government and corporations into one homogeneous body its pretty well know at least outside of US, and its the reason why governments who dont want to have that sort of relationship, are labeled as outliers ..
to be clear all governements do concessions to companies here and there, but in the US the thing its pretty scary; with the power of the lobby groups have into the politicians decisions
This is one of the greatest threat of the XXI century in the same way facist ideology movements were in the XX century..
If even the governement moves toward profits of its companies, what the future will bring to the population that do not fit in that plan? .. citizenship could be reduced to people being mere tools for profit..
Dystopic? yeah.. but just let the Koch brothers and people like them, take the power to see if this would not happen..
Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer. Kalt lügt es auch; und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: "Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk."
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State is the name of the coldest of all cold monsters. Cold it lies, too; and this lie crawls out of its mouth: "I, the state, am the people."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
As you can imagine, the balance of obligation of national oil companies leans in favor of the governments which they represent over shareholders, making the pursuit of profit a lesser factor when political issues are at play.
No Petrobras has no known ties to organized crime. However if you were to ask a Brazilian citizen, they may think otherwise since we consider many of our politicians to be as corrupt as professional crime organizations. Then again, as a US permanent resident, I consider our politicians here to be as corrupt as the Brazilian ones. The Brazilian politicians steal while in office, while American politicians have institutionalized corruption by setting up a system where they get paid back indirectly after leaving office for all the favors they did while in office.
So to answer your question, some would say both the NSA and Petrobras have ties to organized crime, or, more accurately, institutionalized crime.
How would the NSA choose which US company would receive the information? A lottery?
Yes. the snowden revelations with tons of documents; i dont know what are you trying to defend here, but you are clearly very emotive in your argumentation line.. trying to dismiss everything without anything to back up your arguments..
are you under fire here?
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Apart from one other use: verifying that competitors aren't bribing officials to win the auction.
"We have cought you cheating! We know because… (we've hacked your exchange)"
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enercon#Patent_dispute [2] http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-120780529.html
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I think the only country not doing industrial espionage must be Somalia.
> The NSA and its British counterpart, the GCHQ, spied on the official in charge of the European Commission's antitrust office, which has threatened Google with large fines and has already levied punitive fees from Microsoft and Intel, a new report says.
...from this article: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57616173-38/nsa-spied-on-e...
This and my other example are recent enough to have come from the Snowden documents.