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That's fine as long as we keep Lockheed planes to ourselves. Nothing beats the F22.

The Gripen can land on a relatively short stretch of road, a team of six can get it ready for its next flight and it can take off from the same road. The F22 is not a STOL aircraft.

Given standard NATO practice of taking out the radar and the runways in the first few femto-seconds of a 'war', I think this feature makes the Gripen worthy of consideration.

That said, do features really matter in the arms trade?

> That said, do features really matter in the arms trade?

I dunno. Will the next serious war use planes at all? Or something smaller (I bet on smaller, for air and water)?

Anyway, Brazilian fighters are modeled to beat a defensive war against Venezuela. I guess the F22 is not the best fighter to use over the Amazon florest (but I don't know muh).

For water, the most cost effective is submarines, and has been submarines since before WWII. Big ships are an expensive way of giving the enemy some target practice.

The question isn't whether one F22 can beat one Gripen. The question is whether one F22 beats three Gripen (seeing as how the F22 is three times as expensive).

You're assuming 3 gripns will be able to find the f-22. F-22 shouldnt have to ever get close enough for an enemy to see/find them. F22 determines who will be able to see them.

5th gen fighter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth-generation_jet_fighter

Your comment is borderline idiotic. And you clearly don't understand the difference between multirole, flighter and attack jets.

I guess I am an idiot. Honestly HN is really turning into reddit.

Que more down votes! I will never get to that down vote feature threshold.

HN commentors takes things wayyyy to seriously.

edit: I come for the great links, the discussion are just a side effect of the awesome content.

This is the plane that asphyxiates it's pilots remember...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/air-force-confirms-air-supply-pr...

"Fun fact" two of the worst accidents with the Saab JAS-39 Gripen were blamed on software faults.

Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen#cite_ref-FOO...

http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1989/1989%20-%2...

Yeah, Pilot Induced Oscillation. It was actually the same pilot too. Not to blame him though, of course.

Looking at the statistics though, the Gripen has been in very few accidents compared to other fighter jets.

It isnt the plane it is the vest. They were using a standard vest for a plane that can do things previous generations could not. Vector thrusting and some massive amount of thrust provided by those snazzy pratt and whitney F119 turbofans.

It was a problem with the Breathing Regulator/Anti-G (BRAG) valve supporting the Combat Edge vest, for F-22 pilots. F-16 pilots use almost the same vest, but the regulator and anti-G inflation valve setup is different.

The F-22 can sustain high Gs for longer which exacerbated the problem with the BRAG valve.

Thanks I wanst sure on the technical details. Nice to see the problem has been isolated to the valve.

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