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I fully agree with you.

I will only touch Dart when it is natively supported in major browsers or required by our customers.

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Why wait for the VM when you can compile to JavaScript today?

Because customers only request JavaScript and I don't want to debug code generated from tools.

Debugging of generated code has gotten leaps and bounds better in the past few years though.

True for the desktop, when targeting certain browser versions, though.

Yes, your damping down of the excitement is 100% correct.

Have you tried to use source maps to help debugging? Plenty of compile-to-JavaScript languages support source maps, and even some CSS frameworks. Building complex/large apps without a compiler and tools is really difficult. GWT, Closure, TypeScript, Dart are all efforts to help developers build more interesting apps that scale. Building/compiling is just a natural step in the process, and source maps are a natural output of that process.

As I repeated here multiple times:

- customers request JavaScript written by humans, not tools. As it makes them easier to get "resources"

- source maps are only an option on a few desktop browsers, no fun testing generated JavaScript on specific browser issues

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