I don't have a number I'm ready to share in public. That's the big thing that's holding up a Kickstarter. Once we've got a manufacturing partner and know what our costs are, I'll be in a better place to give you a number.

We're working to build something that's going to work well and look gorgeous for a really long time. It's not going to be cheap, but I don't think we could justify charging more than Kinesis do for the Advantage.