"What it has gotten you is a UI check. Take away the check, there's no point in bothering"
Wait, the sole reason these people were looking for a job was to get a steady unemployment insurance check?
Wait, the sole reason these people were looking for a job was to get a steady unemployment insurance check?
But, to get UI you MUST be looking for a job.
So, they are fruitlessly searching for jobs they know they won't get solely to get the cheque. They will stop wasting their time once there is no cheque.
Will they really? Would you take your family out into the streets?
I suspect they'll double down on their efforts and possibly take a job that they suspect was "below them".
For the rest, it's off to the welfare line.
I would like to think that I'd personally be one of the people who keeps trying. But if I was getting constant rejection, I'm not sure how many YEARS I'd keep trying.
Many of the long term unemployed have never recovered from the 2008 down turn, some have been unemployed longer than that. That's 5 years or more.
This is absolutely not why people are not getting of UI to take a minimum wage job. Right now, if they were to accept a minimum wage job, they would lose UI and get paid less for the job then they are getting from UI. It is financially advantageous to stay on UI in those cases. Without that incentive, they would take the low wage job, but they would have to get on welfare/food stamps which the rest of us have to pay for.
So, tax payers are either paying for UI or subsidizing the difference between what those employees are paid and a living wage.
The solution to this mess is simple: Make companies who are profiting billions share those profits and pay their employees a living wage. You do this by raising the minimum wage. With a higher minimum wage, it would become a financially sound decision to get off UI and work a minimum wage job, and taxpayers wouldn't have to pay the difference.
I don't mind this, but I don't see it to be the solution. These multi-billion dollar corporations will find a way to cut out the labor using more automation in workflow or they will out-source this work.
What I'd like to seee is tarrifs go up considerably. If you want to offshore your labor then we'll make up the difference at the dock when you offload your goods.
On another note, if we're going to be a progressive society, we need to start being more progressive with the way regulate businesses with things like the minimum wage. Making McDonald's (1.8mm employees, $27.5 billion revenue) pay the same minimum wage as Fred's Burger cart (3 employees, $73k revenue) is ridiculous. Small businesses should be able to pay a lower minimum wage than bigger businesses, if we're going to be a progressive society.
If we're not going to be a progressive society, then there's no reason to talk minimum wage in the first place.
If you find there's some legal manipulation that could go on so larger companies could avoid paying the higher minimum wage, well, then that's no different than every other progressive law on the books.
Given the relationship between previous wages and UI, a jump in the minimum wage is a short-term solution that doesn't really address the problem -- anytime you have an extended disruption in the employment market you'll have long-term unemployed who (for as long as they have UI benefits) are getting UI benefits much higher than the minimum wage with the current UI formulas, unless you raise the minimum wage so high that it becomes the only wage (or at least, high enough that there are very few jobs significantly above it.)
That's not to say that minimum wage shouldn't be higher than it is (given the current basic system and assuming some better solution to the problems minimum wage addresses isn't adopted), but minimum wage increases don't really address the UI issue you are raising.
You seem confused about the reality that there are no jobs.
The equation for millions of people in the United States today is: apply for 1,000 jobs, get zero offers.
So out of the zero jobs offered, which of the jobs that are below them should they take?
"The unemployment rate declined from 7.3 percent to 7.0 percent in November, and total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 203,000, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in transportation and warehousing, health care, and manufacturing."
Must have been the last 203,000 jobs. Apparently according to you there are now 0 left.
What is your point again?
I don't agree with that, but I find it hard to refute when it comes up. Are there any good, fact-based arguments that prove this idea to be false?
There are around 11 million unemployed in the US. There are not 11 million employers looking for people that can't find anybody willing to work. If there was, everybody would have the UI benefits cut off for not taking those jobs.