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Cute, but please fix your massive privacy and data violations before pissing about with "Doodles".

I will not be fooled into trusting Google without massive transparency changes to how they operate.

Your whole comment is off topic for this thread. There are numerous other threads on HN dealing with NSA snooping that you can troll in.

Drawing attention to massive privacy violations is not irrelevant whenever Google are mentioned. We should not be forgetting who we're dealing with.

If you were thinking of visiting North Korea for a holiday would it be "off topic" to mention human rights issues?

Nobody give this person any more coffee

> Nobody give this person any more coffee

.. not quite a human rights violation, but man, that's pretty harsh.

Actually, I believe that Google isn't responsible for all of the doodles, they outsource a lot of these and the interactive ones too.

Outsourcing isn't relevant. The issue is that Google use such methods to put a public friendly face on their service, while providing the NSA direct access to all their data.

What should be on the Google homepage:

_____Search

An apology for the recent revelations How we plan to regain your trust

It's totally relevant. You implied that Google is wasting their time with doodles rather than these privacy issues. If they're not creating said doodles themselves, then they're not wasting their time.

You literally created your account 12 minutes ago just to bash Google?

You haven't actually read my comment properly, probably a Google Shill.

The longevity of an account has no bearing on validity of ones comments.

Yes, I read your comment properly. And yes, the longevity of your account matters if you're just giving us the usual tin foil hat spew.

As cromwellian also said, Google didn't provide direct access, the NSA cut the fiber. Sure, Google aren't the best company and have had their privacy issues before, but the Government is much worse.

It wasn't the NSA who did it. It was the GCHQ in Britain, who later shared data with the NSA.

Google does not "provide" NSA direct access, the NSA cut into the dark fiber they run underground between their data centers without Google's knowledge.

A just created drive-by account doesn't inspire confidence that you have contrary evidence.

The PRISM revelations prove you incorrect: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-...

No "dark fiber" necessary, Google were complicit with the NSA.

Very irritating when Google apologizers aren't even aware of recent news.

Where does it say in the leaks that Google was providing the access?

That the NSA had access wasn't because Google was providing it. The NSA got access through some shady practices. They have access to all the files when the NSA can listen in on all the traffic. Not because Google gave them permission.

Very irritating when you claim something with a source when the source counters your own point:

> "If they are doing this, they are doing it without our knowledge," one said.

>Google does not "provide" NSA direct access, the NSA cut into the dark fiber they run underground between their data centers without Google's knowledge.

Sure they did....

I appreciate that you don't forget that trolls need to eat too.

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