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or an acquisition :-)

I agree! I highly doubt they would acquire VineClient, however the whole C&D thing is a bit far fetched. They have no grounds to send a C&D, those are all public endpoints that I'm using. If they wanted their content to be so secure, then perhaps they should have went a more secure way other than using HTTP as protocol of communication. But no, usually people take the easy route and that's why people like me are able to create things like VineClient.

Have you read about the guy who accessed publicly accessible URLs and was convicted under the computer fraud act?

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/07/dont-hate-the-crime-hat...

The point being that although security through obscurity is recognized as a terrible way to secure anything, it's still a basis for the CFAA.

I don't think the Vine people are such terrible people, but please realize they have you by the balls if they so please.

I'm not worried. Thanks for the heads up. The software is produced under a company anyway, not me personally. I'll be waiting for a C&D.

You clearly have no concept of how trademarks work or even what they are, and your callous attitude toward them is not only going to get you into legal trouble, but is incredibly antagonistic and off-putting. I'm not sure what you were expecting to get out of making this and posting it on HN, but you will find that your attitude has done nothing but garner you a lot of ill will in a community that you were clearly trying to impress (and have failed spectacularly at doing so).

I'm sorry for coming off that way. I just hate the fact that all you guys are coming off extremely negative and then wondering why I'm not responding the way you want me to. I've dealt with a thing or two in my career my friend. I'm not trying to impress the HN community by any means, I was simply posting a link to something I made. I don't live for HN, and this is clearly not a startup along the lines of HN. All you guys need to relax. It's all water under the bridge to me. If I get a C&D letter, I'll deal with it then. At the moment, the client is up and running and that's all that matters. Thanks for your input.

Sorry for coming off as a Debbie downer, I think what you made is really cool, I'm just personally frustrated with the blatant abuse of the CFAA.

Academic in this instance. It would be an absolute disaster for Vine to assert or cooperate with a Weev-esque prosecution for something of this nature.

Haha you got that right!

The GP is suggesting you'll get a C&D for the use of the word Vine, not the use of what might be private APIs. This is where people get crafty (Instagram > Statigram). No good synonyms [1], and the name is so short that you easily leap from Wine to ShortVidClips - too near to too far.

http://thesaurus.com/browse/vine

The word "Vine" is in the dictionary, it does not solely serve the name of the Vine application. Also, none of the copyrighted logos / trademarks are used on the site. I'm not worried.

Being in the dictionary or not doesn't matter. Trademarks like "Apple" are often dictionary words.

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