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Actually, all that stuff is why I don't like Evernote. It's so featureful, it means that its mobile clients are quite heavyweight and thus quite slow to boot.

When I open my notes, I want them 5 seconds ago, looking right at the last notes I entered anywhere. I can wait for games and Netflix and whatnot to boot, but Notes need to be the snappiest freaking things on Earth. Evernote is not. I have to wait for it to open and then go find my notes.

I probably should be using a different notes system. I use Evernote as a replacement for paper sticky-notes, whereas Evernote seems to be a replacement for a locker full of course notebooks.

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Those are exactly my complaints about Evernote. I'm on OSX most of the time, and I use nvAlt: http://brettterpstra.com/projects/nvalt/

It's blazing fast, moving at the speed of thought. You can also set it up to sync notes as plain text on to Dropbox.

I still use Evernote for its great web clipper and for saving PDFs (though I suppose I could save them in Dropbox instead and search them using Spotlight).

WARNING! You should not store your nvAlt notes on Dropbox if you plan to access them from multiple computers. Dropbox's file versioning can confuse nvAlt, causing data loss. If you want to use nvAlt from multiple computers, I recommend nvAlt's SimpleNote sync.

Issue #129: Notes being deleted from Dropbox while using NVAlt: https://github.com/ttscoff/nv/issues/129

except simplenote has related issues as well. I have had lots of issues with data loss and also tag loss as well even when I was careful to only have a single nvALT copy open. I would pay good money for an nvalt workflow with the evernote client.

Wow, thanks for the warning! I'm pretty sure this happened to me once a long time ago, but I thought it was a bad interaction between FoldingText and nvAlt, not nvAlt*2+Dropbox.

I'm a big fan of Tap Log. Semi-structured notes and logging, lightning fast. Not free. Only tried on Android.

Tap Log looks awesome, has data features I wish EN had, but Android only AFAICT.

Workflowy

I love Workflowy too, and I hope they are able to sustain the business. I live in fear of the day they quit or shut down :/

There's always checkvist.com

>It's so featureful, it means that its mobile clients are quite heavyweight and thus quite slow to boot.

Heavyweight does not mean much in itself. What would that mean? Evernote has a large binary? A cluttered UI?

For my use, I don't find it slow, FWIW.

>When I open my notes, I want them 5 seconds ago, looking right at the last notes I entered anywhere.

So you don't want detailed notes spanning years -- you want to jot something quickly.

In that case, it's true, that's not what Evernote's for.

> > It's so featureful, it means that its mobile clients are quite heavyweight and thus quite slow to boot.

> Heavyweight does not mean much in itself. What would that mean?

You're hearing zir as an engineer, rather than as a customer.

To zir, "heavyweight" means "slow to boot". Why is it slow to boot? "I don't know; just fix it."

... that is the worst genderless pronoun I've ever seen. Just use singular they and make the grammarians angry, nobody else minds.

I mind.

i did not even read it as a pronoun. i just assumed the thread OP was called 'zir', that is until i read your post.

> Heavyweight does not mean much in itself. What would that mean?

It means everything that came after that statement by way of explanation, come on.

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