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Lantern proxied sites lists – China

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These 35105 webpages are blocked in Turkey, almost EU country.

Turkey will probably not become a member of the union any day soon, though.

True, but it is still interesting that they have so controlled environment. We don't talk about things that are going on in Turkey, because Turkish government is supportive of western world. They get away with some interesting things.

(I'm here only temporarily 6 months, so it is different view point from people who live here)

I'm surprised Russia wasn't thrown in there too. Why it is always the usual suspects of China and Iran?

Why don't we get to see a list of webpages blocked by Western countries?

Who is the team responsible for GetLantern and who is funding the developers?

How many "western countries" (whatever that means these days) actually have black lists? Because Canada and the US do not, as the Internet is all provided by non-gov't telco's. Chinatel is the only telco in China allowed to have international trunks, and Chinatel is 51% owned by the gov't. No one even knows how many international trunks Canada and the US even have, as they aren't regulated. At least mostly. In Canada, long distance phone carriers must register. But data over fibre is totally unregulated.

This should give some indication.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_blocking_access_to_Th...

Originally "seeded by Google Ideas, it was built by developers at University of Washington and Brave New Software.". See: http://techpresident.com/news/wegov/24455/why-remarkably-sim...

Hey, I put that list up. All credit for that list goes to http://autoproxy-gfwlist.googlecode.com. I just used the firefox plugin and extracted that list with some regex and de-duplication.

I made the list for http://getlantern.orga censorship circumvention app I work on. So the list is designed to work with our app, and it's easier to just use the whole domain than the domains that are blocked.

Contributions welcome, we just want more of these types of lists for users in China to plug in to their Lantern's.

3 days after the launch, there have been 8500 users, mostly chinese users. Some reported that they joined twitter the first time. They are hoping more users join from overseas to help the speed.

How is Lantern different from tor?

Lantern's main goal is fast access, Tor's is anonymity. We know the Tor developers, and recommend their tool for when people must be anonymous and secure. Lantern aims more at mainstream users who just want to avoid censors for fast access to the open web. It also uses some different approaches, see https://github.com/getlantern/lantern/wiki/%5Bdevelopers%5D-... for some info on the tech.

Many thanks for the information.

Oh God please stop this. Autoproxy using encoded format[1] for a reason: Avoid getting Google Code or Github getting blocked.

Your plain text list will lead to total blocking of Github, All it takes is some random assholes to "report" Github to http://net.china.com.cn/ and oops, github IP will be inaccessible indefinitely.

Just find another way please!

[1]: https://code.google.com/p/autoproxy-gfwlist/source/browse/tr...

What other way would you recommend? I'm definitely open to other solutions. Patches accepted - but we need a way to easily get users a good default list.

I'm also not sure I'm convinced that just that list will get all of github blocked. What evidence do you have to support that? Lantern itself on github seems more 'dangerous' than just the list of sites. And none of our Chinese users seemed to think this is an issue.

I'll ask the greatfire guys, as I'm in touch with them. They wrote a great article on the last time github was blocked: https://en.greatfire.org/blog/2013/jan/github-blocked-china-...

Also will try to ask the autoproxy guys directly - I'm not sure if their reason for using the encoded format is the reason you say.

just encode is with whatever method you choose, don't leave the list as plain text so anyone could view it and "judge" it.

greatfire.org is an OK website for now, history record shows it's not that reliable. If you need any in-depth prior art take a look at Chinese researchers did at GFW Review http://gfwrev.blogspot.com/ They reversed engineered almost everything about GFW, socially and technically.

Btw also this masterpiece http://www.chinagfw.org/2009/08/gfw_30.html which triggered a man hunt and serious online crack down in China

Ok, I took it down. It won't be as simple as 'just encod[ing[ with whatever method', as users right now copy and paste their lists in. So this will be a step back. We need someone to code a way to add encrypted lists, and we've got several higher priority things on our plate. Hopefully someone will help out with an open source contribution.

Lantern seems a lot like the Hola Unblocker (http://hola.org/faq.html#ub_cost), although Hola is ad-supported and not open source.

very good

Djangosnippets is clearly just too dangerous for the Chinese people to be allowed access.

Having seen what some people have done with Django, I'm not completely unsympathetic to this view :p

It's EC2 IP, some other "unwanted" site is sharing the IP address.

The fact that Bloglovin is on that list must mean we're doing something right. The blogosphere is all about taking control over both production and consumption of media.

Awesome! I made the list~ But do I have to go to China to get the reward?

yes, please surrender yourself at the airport police, indicating that you are a wanted international terrorist by Chinese National Security, you will be promptly delivered to your reward.

> adultfriendfinder.com

What? Why would anyone block that

>porn.com

>porn2.com

>pornbase.org

>pornhub.com

>pornmm.net

>pornoxo.com

>pornrapidshare.com

>pornstarclub.com

>porntube.com

>pornvisit.com

What? Why?

The PRC government doesn't like porn. Here's an article that touches on that: http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/news-features/a-l...

And they also blocked python.org, freebsd.org, sourceforge.org,google code. Orz...

Man, China really hates streaming music services.

More likely streaming music services have various agreements which only allow them to operate in select countries. I recall that when I was visiting Canada in 2010, I had to proxy my traffic back to the US to use Pandora.

It is not up to countries to enforce Pandora's contract though.

While this is true, I (in Canada) can still go to pandora.com and I just get a message saying that the service isn't available in my region.

They don't. It depends on these services having agreements to sell their business in China. And FWIW they can always use QQ music which is pretty much most Chinese use anyway.

Yes. It is not related to political reasons.

How do you know? I know they blocked YouTube and liveleak for political reasons.

You can access those music sites fine, it just shows "not available in your country". Adding music sites to the list is a good nice "side-effect" to use these service since most of proxy exits are US based.

Google is blocked. How do they get anything done?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu

This list is much too broad -- Google is NOT universally blocked in China.

Rather, they look for forbidden keywords in queries and block results.

See my other comment here. The list was made not to inform what is blocked, but to configure a piece of circumvention software. It's easier for us in the early days to just proxy all of google from a friend's computer than to just send particular queries. The source list from autoproxy is much better with the queries and parts of google that are blocked.

> hulu.com

> pandora.com

That seems superfluous.

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