> PA is a family
> you're going to be taking a pay cut most likely.
> not much opportunity for growth or change
Are you delusional?
> you're going to be taking a pay cut most likely.
> not much opportunity for growth or change
Are you delusional?
As a rule nobody works there because of the money, and there are many examples of how PA makes decisions which lower their revenue (they could easily raise PAX ticket prices by 3-4x, for example, which would bring in over a million dollars in extra revenue per year per employee). It might be that asking a dev to forgo the sort of pay levels they'd expect from working elsewhere might be too much to ask of anybody, but time will tell I guess.
So when, under the rubric of "general office IT," I'm asked to purge malware or replenish toner, I can reply with a lmgtfy link and a jocular reminder that I'm way too busy to give a shit about their irrelevant self-inflicted problems, right?
In fact, if you mentioned this in the interview it could help you get the job. They're not looking for someone to replenish toner.
Edit: to whomever downvoted me, this is not a joke, I'm being 100% serious here. If it seems unbelievable then go watch some episodes of PA TV or something, that's just how it is there.
It only makes sense to ask a rockstar do-it-all to do it when you already got 40 hours from him, aren't paying OT, don't give a shit about his mental health, and are wringing as many hours as possible out of him to reduce the effective hourly rate.
This is the thinking of a scumbag cheapskate turd. No one who is paying a fair price for talent like this would waste it on vague low-level chores.
Every company is pretty much a family. For all workable definitions of a family.
>>And they are a content and events company not a software startup.
Which means nearly any person who is good at software who isn't in immediate need of money should abandon them.
>>They need coders but for them it's a cost center, not a profit source like at software companies.
If your work doesn't add even that much value to the company, I'm not sure(unless you are really desperate for a job) why should even want to work for such a place.
>>You can make a decent living at PA, definitely, but don't expect the sort of wages you'd make from a software company.
Again, why would any one want to work there after knowing this.
>>Even when PA is in a period of expansion and growth that growth is nothing compared to what is typical at a tech startup.
So even in the best situation for the company, you still get screwed.
>>As a rule nobody works there because of the money,
Sorry but I totally refuse to believe in this. In fact this is a serious red flag. In most common cases, this is the most common story circulated so that employees can be paid less to make the founder little more richer.
Once you sell the story that money is evil, and workaholism till death as a holy virtue. You can now continue to demand as much work you want low prices and people have to just comply. On top of that you are selling the "We are family" story, which is in reality why you must sacrifice your life to make the head of the family richer.
A lot of people do a lot of things for reasons other than money. Almost all technical books, for example, do not make very much money for their authors. Certainly not enough to justify the work they put into them. But thankfully a lot of folks still think it's a worthwhile thing to do.
I'm sure non-monetary concerns are a significant factor in everyone's job choices. Otherwise why aren't we all spammers or grifters, or selling bullshit "audiophile" equipment at crazy markups? Are there any companies you wouldn't work for even if they paid you much more than the competition? Logically the reverse must also be true, that you will work somewhere for below average because you enjoy working there.
Yes, in most common cases what you say may be true, a lot of typical employers are exploitative. But PA isn't a typical case. PA very much is family. At a normal company it would be very unusual for everyone at a company to attend a coworker's wedding, but that's absolutely the way PA is. And not because of some bullshit corporate culture but just because that's how they've been and they've struggled to maintain that level of closeness even as they've grown.